http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/inc/...l?v=1&pid=9402

Just found this. Is it too good to be true? Looks like the STS kit, I think it is the STS kit though. Just though I would post and see what people think.

 

It says it is the STS kit in the writing further down the page.

 

lol how silly... Anyone dynod one?

 

silly? if i can get a few more answers i may be another $3,000 in the hole soon

 

Its a brand new kit. I think they are still doing some testing on it. I think the numbers were 420-500 on a stock motor. Pretty awesome kit if you ask me. Needs some kinks worked out. I just posted this to get the price out. Pretty cheap if you ask me. About the same as a heads/cam package, with more power and an easier install.

 

I "think" The Lt1 (modded) with alky and tuning went 130+mph with it but I am not sure if that is real or GTECH. (not clarified)

It is an interesting concept but I am curious about lag time.

 

I heard rumors of someone in the Cincinatti area a few months back developing an electric turbo for the LS1. It was supposed to operate off of the TPS. Is this the basic concept of this system? If so I assume it should be able to keep lag at a minimum.

 

brett this is something completely different.
as for this kit, i wonder how hard it would be to instal the methenol injection after the kit is already on there. i know i, for one, wouldn't feel safe making 500hp on stock fuel system/bottom end but i would like to later on once those issues are dealt with.
and what kind of kinks are they trying to work out? i am really leaning towards buying this kit and would love to get a head start on whatever it is i will probably be dealing with later on

 

The LT1 times/trap speeds were all G-Tech. Some of the first dyno numbers submitted were also G-Tech dyno numbers. But later there were some dynojet numbers, but one must realize that the dyno numbers posted are all dynojet corrected numbers for 5000+ feet - I believe it was on the order of 20-25% correction factor for the LT1 vehicle. The Dynojet SAE correction really isn't as applicable to boosted cars - if you assume a NA car and you have 80kPa atmospheric vs. 100kPa atmospheric that is a 20% reduction in airflow. If you figure 15lbs of boost you are at 180kPa atmospheric vs. 200kPa at sealevel - so now only a 10% difference.

Also with regards to the methanol kit, and claims that it adds "all the extra fuel - no tuning needed", I do not believe these are accurate - at least once the MAF maxes out. According to STS the kit meters fuel by looking at the injector pulsewidth - the thing is, if injector pulsewidth is accurate than your computer is already adding the appropriate amount of fuel - once your MAF maxes than the injector pulsewidth will remain the same even as you get additional air. So you would need to tune to compensate for this. That said the kit is still excellent as a means to reduce temperature, etc. - but I would not use it as a fueling source exclusively, or as a substitute for tuning.

That said I still think this is an interesting kit, etc. I have no doubt it can make power and work, I just think there is a lot of FUD and exageration going on with regards to the kit and it's capabilities/requirements.

Depending on what your hp goals are, etc. it would definitely be worth checking out.

Also, as a note - I do not believe STS has felt the need to be a sponsor of this board, so if you could refrain from posting pricing information that would be great!

 

you can run it fine without tuning, but once if u want higher boost there's no shortcuts no matter what.

It's making good power for a t-60 or whatever it is..

he did some G-tech, but he was also cuttin up the stock tires at the track with the Ls1, similar deal with the lt1.

even if u take 15-25% off for drivetrain loss, he would be doing 560-ish lb pounds to the rear wheels.

On a stock engine no less. so If order a t-72 caliber turbo you will be making the power u need.

It's definetly not the kit to win the Drag radial class with but if your car will be driven on the street it's the best bargain out.

It's always best to have the fuel system up to the task, so u can do it.

but regular guys, not tuners have put down 460rwhp with this. on lt-1s without cams or heads and god knows if exahust.

that lt-1 is a 200mph car, the owner (not sts) is not really a drag racer so that's why they haven't made it one of these "shop cars" and dumped 95k on it like another ls1 shop i saw in hot rod.

 

It would take 8 alternators to produce enough electricity to supercharge a motor with just the electricity produced from it.

Physics isn't in favor of something like this actually working.

 

Looks like I am going to be 3000.00 dolllars poorer real soon........ I wonder if it is going to like my 150 shot......

 

On 5 PSI it dynoed 416 RWHP, and on 8 PSI it dynoed 509 RWHP. Check this tread out: http://www.ufba.org/forum/index.php?...;threadid=5145

 

Tested the 99 LS1 prototype on 11/22/03 at Phantom Motorsports in SLC. Results were:

Stock this same car produced a best run of 320 rwhp on this same dyno.

5 psi run produced 416 rwhp and 452 rwtq

8 psi run with methanol injection produced 509 rwhp and 551 rwtq

These runs were on a completely stock LS1 with STS turbo system and no other modifications or tuning. Click on Dyno Graph Link to see graphs.

These where done with a 60-1 Too!!!
Stock LT1 on 5psi 12.9 at 112mph!!!

 

What state is this shop located? What elevation?

I really wish someone would buy the bigger kit and put it on a sea level dyno for tuning with a good fuel system, bigger injectors and LS1 edit

Very interested to see what the numbers would be like. That with track testing would be great.

What IAT's are they seeing at different boost numbers without the water/alky system?

Cheers,
Chris

 

Squires Turbo Systems

535 North 1200 West
Orem, Utah 84057
Phone: (801) 979-6554
Fax: (443) 264-2678
Email: sales@ststurbo.

not sure what elevation Utah is?

 

from the site....this is RWHP

"Tested the 99 LS1 prototype on 11/22/03 at Phantom Motorsports in SLC. Results were:

Stock this same car produced a best run of 320 rwhp on this same dyno.

5 psi run produced 416 rwhp and 452 rwtq

8 psi run with methanol injection produced 509 rwhp and 551 rwtq

These runs were on a completely stock LS1 with STS turbo system and no other modifications or tuning. Click on Dyno Graph Link to see graphs."