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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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hey guys im lookin into turbo charging my car. for now i just want to do something small. nothing to powerful. what all is needed to do this. my car is all stock except for a few bolt ons. slp lid and full exhaust. would the aps twin turbo kit be too much? im new to this so take it easy on me
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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i did all i realy found was for an all out build.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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So you're looking for a half-assed build???
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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not half assed just to where i can have it turbo charged and run minimum boost and upgrade as the money comes
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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First decide front or rear mount, and go from there. You'll need a kit or possibly piece together a kit from E-Bay definately get bigger injectors, I can tell you that to start with.
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figure out what your goals are, and save your pennies and dimes...or take out a phat cash loan.(not recommended) save your money then build.

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well imma be saving up til i get income tax back and already have some saved may be selling my quad to get some more money.

what is better front or rear mount?
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what is better front or rear mount?
i would run a search on that one... " to each is their own " either way it's not going to be cheap depending on what your goals are
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well i know they arent gonna be cheap. lol. im kinda leaning towards the sts. like i said im new to the turbo stuff besides like the turbo in my duramax and stuff like that but actually turbo charging a car i dont really know much.
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my thoughts on the STS....


a standard rear mount kit is a good place to start for future modifications or if you are looking for just a little more punch over stock, but i have found that most people don't like rear-mounts because they bolted the kit up as advertised expecting monster horsepower numbers and track times then are sadly disappointed or have never actually owned the system in the first place. i think the system works great but stock exhaust manifolds w/heat wrap, tuning tuning tuning, fuel system up-grade, turbo cam and a few other goodies such as some listed in the links below are needed to make a rear-mount work to it's full potential. lots of people complain about the air taking to long to get from the turbo to the motor, to me once the car is running the system is pressurized. some people fear sucking up water into the turbo. i've driven several times in torrential rain and have had no issues with sucking up water. looking at the picture below of how high the filter is located, if an Fbody is driving in deep enough water to be sucked into the turbo, ya probably shouldn't be driving anyway. the oil lines aren't for the faint of heart and is one of the few fears i have. changing spark plugs is hard enough as it is, with a rear-mount there is no extra stuff under the hood or the need for custom front mount turbo piping. it sounds awesome, sts has it's own list of pros and cons listed on their website. i'm running a custom intercooled t67 with a built 385cu.in. LT1 on 91oct. stock intake manifold pushing just over 500/570 rear-wheel on a one time mail order tune ( dyno tuning coming soon and more power) with no noticeable lag and capable of over 650rearwheel . mine hangs low, but the pipes of the new kits tuck the turbo up and away from the ground much more.. a buddy of mine ran the same T67/.81 intercooled LEP/sts kit on his stock 2002 SS and made over 530rear wheel in 100* Vegas. with a forged motor and 100oct. fuel it broke 680rear wheel. i think rear-mounts are more for daily drivers, emissions friendly and weekend worriers, front mounts more for weekend worriers and racers. to each is their own. all depends on what your over all goals are and how much you want to spend.

the LEP/STS kit my buddy and i are currently running:
LT1kit: http://leperformance.com/lepstsrearmountturbo.aspx

630rwhp sts/lep '02 Camaro: https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...ear-mount.html

with as high as the filter is, i'd be more worried about the opti getting wet then the turbo:

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I'm not trying to be a parent/dick but don't freakin tell him to take out a "phat cash loan". That's the reason why our country f#cking sucks right now. People buy crap and they have no business even considering it in the first place. People dig theirselves such a big hole and they don't even know it. By the time they do notice it's too late. Then they start watching the credit help commercials on tv hoping for a bailout. This damn country is so broke it can't even afford to pay attention. The credit crisis is going to ruin this country you watch and see.

As for the post: Be honest with what your willing to spend. No b.s. or cutting corners. Just cut and dried honesty. I will tell you first hand that it is expensive. I could have saved myself a lot of money if I would have decided what I wanted to do in the first place instead of changing my mind all the time. My damn build mimics the way a freakin drunk walks. It has been all over the place. I'm sick of spending money and I'm not quite done yet. Sad thing is I haven't even started breaking crap yet! Check the sticky's on top of the FI forum. That is a good place to start. Once you decide what you want to do make a well thought out plan on the chain of events and stick to it. And for God's sake don't buy it if you don't have the money in hand! Good luck.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...induction.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...turbo-faq.html
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i guess you missed this part... " (not recommended) save your money then build."
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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yeah I guess I did bud. Sorry for the rant, but just trying to pass on valuable advice. I by no means have it all figured out lol. My bad dude.
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i think i decided i wanna go with the aps twin turbo kit? whos running this setup?
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umm a good bit of people are but APS doesnt make kits for us anymore because their turbos kept blowing up......
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so aps dont even sell a kit anymore?
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Nope, I wouldnt buy that piece of **** anyway. The piping and intercooler was the best part, the turbos blew in the majority of their kits. If you can find their piping or an Incon piping kit, go for that. The thing is youre talking a twin turbo kit, be prepared to spend up to 10k to do it right. You can put down 600 at the wheels for less than 5k but you also need to upgrade your rear and tranny otherwise that 600whp doesnt mean anything sitting in your garage
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so are the sts kits good? thats the other kit i was looking at? anyone having problems with those?
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the STS kit's are good, but if you just bolt it up as advertised you'll probably be disappointed. you have to add just a little extra for the system to work to it's full potential: https://ls1tech.com/forums/12485435-post11.html

with a little t67: http://forums.lvfbody.com/showthread.php?t=29578

running off of this kit: http://forums.lvfbody.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=56
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