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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Whats everyones preference for their hot piping? It would be black ceramic coating which is supposedly good to like 2200*

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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Ill just chalk that up as ceramic coating then. It would cost me about 400$ just to ship all these parts down to the lower 48 and back.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Actually, the Swaintech coating is like a ceramic coating on crack. It's different than most (about 99%) of the other coatings out there, and is definitely worth a look. Check out their website.

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Ill just chalk that up as ceramic coating then. It would cost me about 400$ just to ship all these parts down to the lower 48 and back.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeDime
Ill just chalk that up as ceramic coating then. It would cost me about 400$ just to ship all these parts down to the lower 48 and back.
that is the cost of living in AK. was that shipping ground? if you want i can ask your shipping guy what he recomends for shipping that stuff (we ship parts all over the world).
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Thats ok. Shipping this out of state isnt really an option. This isnt an all out race application and im not going to spend 1k+ on coatings. Thanks for the offer but its not in the cards.
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Originally Posted by FastKat
Actually, the Swaintech coating is like a ceramic coating on crack. It's different than most (about 99%) of the other coatings out there, and is definitely worth a look. Check out their website.
Sounds good on paper but no pictures on the website is a huge FAIL.

Anybody got pictures of this stuff on some hot parts that I could see?
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The pictures are on the Swaintech homepage, at the top on the right, under the words "Racing Tech Coatings". The SBC header and the turbine housing are coated with White Lightning.

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Sounds good on paper but no pictures on the website is a huge FAIL.

Anybody got pictures of this stuff on some hot parts that I could see?
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Originally Posted by FastKat
The pictures are on the Swaintech homepage, at the top on the right, under the words "Racing Tech Coatings". The SBC header and the turbine housing are coated with White Lightning.
I saw that but that's a really small picture. You can't see the texture that they reference in the description. I'm trying to see if this is the same stuff that I saw somewhere else.
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Here ya go. Swaintech is all my buddy Neukin uses. The quality is top notch:







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That's the stuff! Thanks for posting!
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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If your pipes are stainless I'd probably just wrap as they will evantualy crack so you will have to reweld which will be a pain with coating. Been there done that. NEver again.
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if your not wanting to ship out of state, find a good power coat place and talk to them. i know AK is kinda limited for speed shops
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PolyDyn FTW!!! OP, not for you as its here in Houston, TX but there all i ever use. if you cant find a decent coating up there just wrap em. I use the exact same wrap at work but in huge sheets, we wrap the parts we weld to keep em hot. Wrap works very very well, despite what some people think.
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PolyDyn FTW!!! OP, not for you as its here in Houston, TX but there all i ever use. if you cant find a decent coating up there just wrap em. I use the exact same wrap at work but in huge sheets, we wrap the parts we weld to keep em hot. Wrap works very very well, despite what some people think.
My friend just got a set of headers back from them and they look nice. Stuff works well but I think that this Swaintech stuff is in a different league.
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Originally Posted by bondosgto
if your not wanting to ship out of state, find a good power coat place and talk to them. i know AK is kinda limited for speed shops
Ya theres a shop an hour outside of town that does good work. Its like 300$ or so for the headers and all the piping, which is entirely doable for me.
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How much of an external temp. difference is there between the Swaintech coating vs. wrapping? I had uncoated headers on my old 70 C-10 project and after wrapping them, it seemed like it was almost as cool under the hood as it was outside. However the wrap doesn't like oil or trans fluid spilled on it. That tends to cause a nice fire.
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The header wrap reduces temps more than any of the coatings but I don't think it will last on the red hot bits, like the first 6" of your header or the main part of a log. The ceramic will. Ceramicoat grey or black is rated up to 1800 and is available almost anyplace that does powdercoating or plating. I used the grey and it still looks new.

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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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+1 for wrapped being cool to the touch. I wouldn't want to touch a bare coated pipe!
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 01:45 AM
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But wrap is flammable? Is that what Im understanding? lol
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