Cheapest way to 1,000 RWHP...........
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"I want to come up with a budget before I start anything and NOT surpass it. This talk by some people about coming up with a price then X3....those are the people who do NO research like dummies and have no clue what they're getting into."
my point is, at that power level your dropping tons of money just to keep the car going and dealing with all the issues that will pop up. it's never a simple thing anymore. but if it was me:
a built to the hilt 4l80e, your 12 bolt until it destorys itself then a fab 9/ m9 with a wavetrac or locker/ spool with a 91mm t-6 turbo kit on at least a 402 ls2 should make you smile and get you close to your goal. especially if you arent doing the work, id really figure at least 30k to get you up and running (thats a budget build btw).
my point is, at that power level your dropping tons of money just to keep the car going and dealing with all the issues that will pop up. it's never a simple thing anymore. but if it was me:
a built to the hilt 4l80e, your 12 bolt until it destorys itself then a fab 9/ m9 with a wavetrac or locker/ spool with a 91mm t-6 turbo kit on at least a 402 ls2 should make you smile and get you close to your goal. especially if you arent doing the work, id really figure at least 30k to get you up and running (thats a budget build btw).
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There is a company in Fort Worth "old air products". They are the "go to" for custom hot rod A/C setups.
They may have, or can definately build a bracket; so you can retain the A/C.
I bought a A/C bracket from them for my custom 78 Jeep CJ-7. 350ci, 350 turbo tranny, brush guards, Gears, axles, lift, & 33's. It would pop a wheelie when it hit second gear.
It would OFF ROAD like a mad man.
If you run into ac problems, they can help you out.
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I can tell you this much....when I get it all together I'll know what I'm gonna be spending up front. I need to know this to make sure I can do it. $18,000-$20,000, I have that right now. But if its looking like $25,000-$30,000, I'm gonna pull the plug and just build a 427ci with some spray.
Engine...LSX iron...$1800 + machining
Have the crank..4" stroke
Need rods
Need pistons (4" bore to make it 402ci)
Need fuel management or 99-02 PCM if it'll work
Need fuel pump(s) and injectors
6 bolt heads.... $3,000-$4,000
Wilson intake (used)...$1,000
Tranny....I have it
Suspension and 12 bolt rear-end....I have it
Engine...LSX iron...$1800 + machining
Have the crank..4" stroke
Need rods
Need pistons (4" bore to make it 402ci)
Need fuel management or 99-02 PCM if it'll work
Need fuel pump(s) and injectors
6 bolt heads.... $3,000-$4,000
Wilson intake (used)...$1,000
Tranny....I have it
Suspension and 12 bolt rear-end....I have it
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"I want to come up with a budget before I start anything and NOT surpass it. This talk by some people about coming up with a price then X3....those are the people who do NO research like dummies and have no clue what they're getting into."
my point is, at that power level your dropping tons of money just to keep the car going and dealing with all the issues that will pop up. it's never a simple thing anymore. but if it was me:
a built to the hilt 4l80e, your 12 bolt until it destorys itself then a fab 9/ m9 with a wavetrac or locker/ spool with a 91mm t-6 turbo kit on at least a 402 ls2 should make you smile and get you close to your goal. especially if you arent doing the work, id really figure at least 30k to get you up and running (thats a budget build btw).
my point is, at that power level your dropping tons of money just to keep the car going and dealing with all the issues that will pop up. it's never a simple thing anymore. but if it was me:
a built to the hilt 4l80e, your 12 bolt until it destorys itself then a fab 9/ m9 with a wavetrac or locker/ spool with a 91mm t-6 turbo kit on at least a 402 ls2 should make you smile and get you close to your goal. especially if you arent doing the work, id really figure at least 30k to get you up and running (thats a budget build btw).
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BTW, lots of daily drivers in the 650-750 range. Going that extra little bit really costs.
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I can tell you this much....when I get it all together I'll know what I'm gonna be spending up front. I need to know this to make sure I can do it. $18,000-$20,000, I have that right now. But if its looking like $25,000-$30,000, I'm gonna pull the plug and just build a 427ci with some spray.
Engine...LSX iron...$1800 + machining
Have the crank..4" stroke
Need rods
Need pistons (4" bore to make it 402ci)
Need fuel management or 99-02 PCM if it'll work
Need fuel pump(s) and injectors
6 bolt heads.... $3,000-$4,000
Wilson intake (used)...$1,000
Tranny....I have it
Suspension and 12 bolt rear-end....I have it
Engine...LSX iron...$1800 + machining
Have the crank..4" stroke
Need rods
Need pistons (4" bore to make it 402ci)
Need fuel management or 99-02 PCM if it'll work
Need fuel pump(s) and injectors
6 bolt heads.... $3,000-$4,000
Wilson intake (used)...$1,000
Tranny....I have it
Suspension and 12 bolt rear-end....I have it
just like i said before the motor alone will cost you 20000
and you are missing allot of parts in that list of yours
dual roller,
cam, oil pump,
oil pan,
windage tray,
pickup tube,
main girdle ? or pin the mains or both
arp main studs,
arp head studs,
cam bearings
rod bearing
main bearings
timing cover
head gaskets
oil pan gasket
that is just the stuff i could think off the top of my head, and machining an lsx block will cost you allot of money !!!
i am not trying to be an *******, just don't want to see u get burned
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i'd pull the plug now, i spent 15000 bucks just to hit 500whp with my fi setup. and i do allot of work myself
just like i said before the motor alone will cost you 20000
and you are missing allot of parts in that list of yours
dual roller,
cam, oil pump,
oil pan,
windage tray,
pickup tube,
main girdle ? or pin the mains or both
arp main studs,
arp head studs,
cam bearings
rod bearing
main bearings
timing cover
head gaskets
oil pan gasket
that is just the stuff i could think off the top of my head, and machining an lsx block will cost you allot of money !!!
i am not trying to be an *******, just don't want to see u get burned
just like i said before the motor alone will cost you 20000
and you are missing allot of parts in that list of yours
dual roller,
cam, oil pump,
oil pan,
windage tray,
pickup tube,
main girdle ? or pin the mains or both
arp main studs,
arp head studs,
cam bearings
rod bearing
main bearings
timing cover
head gaskets
oil pan gasket
that is just the stuff i could think off the top of my head, and machining an lsx block will cost you allot of money !!!
i am not trying to be an *******, just don't want to see u get burned
My new set up:
speedinc 370 9.2:1, used 317's (not the best choice)
double timing chain, melling oil pump, ARP head bolts, 79# High Imp injec, Vic jr + rails+ intake elbows, -8 feed line, -6 return line, patriot duals
kytp single turbo hot and cold side $2k TC 78 $950
built th400 with stall $1425
roll cage $380
all of that adds up to $11,255 and I'm doing all of the installing myself... slowly but surely because I've never done any of this
This set up, minus heads is enough to make 800rwhp depending on much the th400 robs. You could make more by swapping the turbo
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i'd pull the plug now, i spent 15000 bucks just to hit 500whp with my fi setup. and i do allot of work myself
just like i said before the motor alone will cost you 20000
and you are missing allot of parts in that list of yours
dual roller,
cam, oil pump,
oil pan,
windage tray,
pickup tube,
main girdle ? or pin the mains or both
arp main studs,
arp head studs,
cam bearings
rod bearing
main bearings
timing cover
head gaskets
oil pan gasket
that is just the stuff i could think off the top of my head, and machining an lsx block will cost you allot of money !!!
i am not trying to be an *******, just don't want to see u get burned
just like i said before the motor alone will cost you 20000
and you are missing allot of parts in that list of yours
dual roller,
cam, oil pump,
oil pan,
windage tray,
pickup tube,
main girdle ? or pin the mains or both
arp main studs,
arp head studs,
cam bearings
rod bearing
main bearings
timing cover
head gaskets
oil pan gasket
that is just the stuff i could think off the top of my head, and machining an lsx block will cost you allot of money !!!
i am not trying to be an *******, just don't want to see u get burned
Just the engine...$20,000...HOW?
So machining an LSX iron block to 4" bore is gonna cost what????? Its been totally checked by my builder, the current owner was gonna do a 430ci single turbo with it. I can get it for $1,800 and have it bored to 4".
How much are 6 bolt AFR's?
Intake is gonna cost me $1,000.
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Man....if I was high........total BUZZ KILLER.
Just the engine...$20,000...HOW?
So machining an LSX iron block to 4" bore is gonna cost what????? Its been totally checked by my builder, the current owner was gonna do a 430ci single turbo with it. I can get it for $1,800 and have it bored to 4".
How much are 6 bolt AFR's?
Intake is gonna cost me $1,000.
Just the engine...$20,000...HOW?
So machining an LSX iron block to 4" bore is gonna cost what????? Its been totally checked by my builder, the current owner was gonna do a 430ci single turbo with it. I can get it for $1,800 and have it bored to 4".
How much are 6 bolt AFR's?
Intake is gonna cost me $1,000.
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Why? I hit that with a $3200 used STS kit and a $980 cam swap and made 513/525 on 7.5psi
My new set up:
speedinc 370 9.2:1, used 317's (not the best choice)
double timing chain, melling oil pump, ARP head bolts, 79# High Imp injec, Vic jr + rails+ intake elbows, -8 feed line, -6 return line, patriot duals
kytp single turbo hot and cold side $2k TC 78 $950
built th400 with stall $1425
roll cage $380
all of that adds up to $11,255 and I'm doing all of the installing myself... slowly but surely because I've never done any of this
This set up, minus heads is enough to make 800rwhp depending on much the th400 robs. You could make more by swapping the turbo
My new set up:
speedinc 370 9.2:1, used 317's (not the best choice)
double timing chain, melling oil pump, ARP head bolts, 79# High Imp injec, Vic jr + rails+ intake elbows, -8 feed line, -6 return line, patriot duals
kytp single turbo hot and cold side $2k TC 78 $950
built th400 with stall $1425
roll cage $380
all of that adds up to $11,255 and I'm doing all of the installing myself... slowly but surely because I've never done any of this
This set up, minus heads is enough to make 800rwhp depending on much the th400 robs. You could make more by swapping the turbo
My father just called me and asked how my research is going, he's more amp'ed about this project then me. He's 67 yrs old and can't wait for me to build this. I told him things aren't looking as good as I planned. I thought I would have a list of what to buy by now.
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Sure a LSX based big cube engine and Pro Mod Billet wheel turbo will do the deed. Its all good of you are building a drag radial race car. There are shops that specialize in that type of build. There are other options that will achieve 1000rwhp with out costing you $40-50k.
Call me tomorrow. Lets talk. Advice is free. I have done this multiple times with in your budget.
Call me tomorrow. Lets talk. Advice is free. I have done this multiple times with in your budget.
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Sure a LSX based big cube engine and Pro Mod Billet wheel turbo will do the deed. Its all good of you are building a drag radial race car. There are shops that specialize in that type of build. There are other options that will achieve 1000rwhp with out costing you $40-50k.
Call me tomorrow. Lets talk. Advice is free. I have done this multiple times with in your budget.
Call me tomorrow. Lets talk. Advice is free. I have done this multiple times with in your budget.
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I see a Katech 402ci short-block for around $5,000. Heads for $3,000, intake for $500 and I guess an elbow for whatever. There's my engine, less rails and injectors for less than $10,000.
Turbo kit......$$$$....???
Fuel system...$$$....???
88mm Turbo....$$$....???
PCM...$$$...???
Will the rest be more than $11,000...............
My friend can install it all for me. I would need someone to tune it that knows their ****.
What am I missing? I have the tranny, rear, suspension, done.