D1SC or T-trim V3
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LS1x2 - Those are some great results from your setup. I would be more then happy to be able to get something like that out of my setup, but am a bit skeptical how the bottom end will hold up for me.
Fran - I may be able to stop by your shop tomorrow and talk to you a bit.
I'm currently looking at different brackets because there may be some clearance issue on the Corvette setup with the inlet and the radiator. Seems like a short style 'hat' would be needed on the inlet to get it to fit in there.
DeltaT - Which bracket configuration are you planning on running?
Fran - I may be able to stop by your shop tomorrow and talk to you a bit.
I'm currently looking at different brackets because there may be some clearance issue on the Corvette setup with the inlet and the radiator. Seems like a short style 'hat' would be needed on the inlet to get it to fit in there.
DeltaT - Which bracket configuration are you planning on running?
I am a huge fan of the Vortech head units. I have had an insane amount of miles on all 3 of my head units. And they can put down some very good power:
http://www.coperformanceunlimited.co...c.php?f=8&t=30
http://www.coperformanceunlimited.co...c.php?f=8&t=30
I am a huge fan of the Vortech head units. I have had an insane amount of miles on all 3 of my head units. And they can put down some very good power:
http://www.coperformanceunlimited.co...c.php?f=8&t=30
http://www.coperformanceunlimited.co...c.php?f=8&t=30
I've been researching this for a while myself and it sure seems that on this board Procharger is IT PERIOD! Probably due largely to EPP ( Bob ) who sells Procharger stuff and ( unfortunately no longer installs and tunes them ) but he is very open with info and what works/doesnt work etc. I think thats probably the main reason so many guys here run Prochargers.
Outside of this site? Lots of variety... Power wise I cant say I've paid too much attention to who actually makes the most as I am a street guy and dont care about absolute peak hp as much as i care about reliability and especially quiet as anything over 600 would have me doing backflips. Considering that Vortech offer the SQ ( super quiet ) option and that I found a vid of a C5 with an SQ on youtube running tens I was pretty much sold on that head unit probably the self contained oiler as well but Im waiting for more guinea pigs first.
I'm not in any huge rush to do this as I too am on a swap car so Im not sure which bracket will fit etc. so thats what Im looking into now. Anyways just thought i'd offer my thoughts on it to ya because as far as I can tell after reading tons of posts it seems the choice is more about
1. price
2. fitment
3. noise
Power wise they're all close when comparing relative size and trim. Seems theres always a newer bigger version of boost arriving too so it never ends. Thankfully
Outside of this site? Lots of variety... Power wise I cant say I've paid too much attention to who actually makes the most as I am a street guy and dont care about absolute peak hp as much as i care about reliability and especially quiet as anything over 600 would have me doing backflips. Considering that Vortech offer the SQ ( super quiet ) option and that I found a vid of a C5 with an SQ on youtube running tens I was pretty much sold on that head unit probably the self contained oiler as well but Im waiting for more guinea pigs first.
I'm not in any huge rush to do this as I too am on a swap car so Im not sure which bracket will fit etc. so thats what Im looking into now. Anyways just thought i'd offer my thoughts on it to ya because as far as I can tell after reading tons of posts it seems the choice is more about
1. price
2. fitment
3. noise
Power wise they're all close when comparing relative size and trim. Seems theres always a newer bigger version of boost arriving too so it never ends. Thankfully
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Launching!
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Good info Cam. I am looking at basically the same info. At the moment I am trying to figure out how well the Corvette style setup will fit with clearance against the radiator. Procharger came out with their LS bracket for retrofit apps, but it seems like the output routing gets a bit weird with the positioning of it.
All in all, it seems like the head unit comes down to personal choice. It appears power may be very similar between brands. In my area though it seems like the shops that I know of sell Vortech more then Procharger, but Procharger seems to be more predominent on the boards.
So many 'little details' to figure out when trying to piece an entire car together..
All in all, it seems like the head unit comes down to personal choice. It appears power may be very similar between brands. In my area though it seems like the shops that I know of sell Vortech more then Procharger, but Procharger seems to be more predominent on the boards.
So many 'little details' to figure out when trying to piece an entire car together..
Jim, I'll be using the same style brackets as before, but am fabbing up som thicker plates and spacers. The YSi has the same mounting pattern as the T-trims. In fact, why not just go to a YSi to begin with?
Jim
Jim
DeltaT you are right, I wish I would have went with a YSI to begin with its only a couple hundred more but the gains are significant for the price. Vortech is definitely the minority around here but I will have to say I like mine and have had no trouble with it so far. Also you can most likely expect to see around the same hp as my car since you have the t-trim with a touch more cfm, but I have the 403 ls2, kinda evens out I guess. I wish I could make mine louder, even with an open bypass its not all that loud imo.
A local friend of mine runs the YSi with pretty damn good results but Im going to steer clear of going that big for now... Hafta keep something to look forward to right? hehe
Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfxHsFUFOZc
Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfxHsFUFOZc
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How's the decision coming Jim?
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Cam,
That video is pretty sick!! The YSi seems to be pretty awesome, but I really never plan on going that extreme with the car.
I've made a few phone calls and stopped in to visit Fran at RPM to discuss things. I like the way if I go with the Vortech, A&A is familiar with the whole setup and its more of a package.
Haven't made a final decision yet, but for what I am trying to achieve it seems either would work fine and the Vortech seems to be winning out a bit on convenience, price, etc...
That video is pretty sick!! The YSi seems to be pretty awesome, but I really never plan on going that extreme with the car.
I've made a few phone calls and stopped in to visit Fran at RPM to discuss things. I like the way if I go with the Vortech, A&A is familiar with the whole setup and its more of a package.
Haven't made a final decision yet, but for what I am trying to achieve it seems either would work fine and the Vortech seems to be winning out a bit on convenience, price, etc...
I am in the process of doing some research for a project I am working on. I'm building a 69 Camaro, and want to do a supercharger on it. I'm trying to decide between a Procharger setup, or a Vortech setup. I was originally leaning towards a Procharger D1SC, but may be able to get a better price on a Vortech T-trim.
Some details on the build:
Engine - LS2 6.0L stock bottom end, LS3 Heads, LS3 Intake, cam will be a blower friendly grind.
Exhaust - Hooker headers, 3 inch X, 2.5 inch tailpipes
Trans - T56 Magnum
Rear - 12 bolt, 3.73 gears
Fuel - Bosch 044 intank pump, 60 or 80lb injectors
Ultimately I am looking to get 650-700rwhp on the stock bottom end. I don't want to blow the thing up, but want to achieve 650. Eventually the bottom end may get forged and I'll shoot for 750, but that is a ways away.
I plan on going with a FMIC setup on it also to help things out.
Anyway, if you've read this far I appreciate it, and let me know what you think. Thanks!!
Some details on the build:
Engine - LS2 6.0L stock bottom end, LS3 Heads, LS3 Intake, cam will be a blower friendly grind.
Exhaust - Hooker headers, 3 inch X, 2.5 inch tailpipes
Trans - T56 Magnum
Rear - 12 bolt, 3.73 gears
Fuel - Bosch 044 intank pump, 60 or 80lb injectors
Ultimately I am looking to get 650-700rwhp on the stock bottom end. I don't want to blow the thing up, but want to achieve 650. Eventually the bottom end may get forged and I'll shoot for 750, but that is a ways away.
I plan on going with a FMIC setup on it also to help things out.
Anyway, if you've read this far I appreciate it, and let me know what you think. Thanks!!
The bracket above fits in the 1st gen Camaro, and the head unit can be rotated to where it can be connected to an intercooler. Bob
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I have a V3-Si Vortech fitted to my Holden. Let me know if you need any pictures. Charger made 554 RWHP @ 8 psi on a standard LS1 with Patrick G Cam.
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I am after a similar setup for my early Holden with the outlet pointing towards the fender to link up to my intercooler. I emailed Bob at EPP who said that the GTO bracket should do the job.
The Nova looks tough!
The Nova looks tough!
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Launching!
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Jashell1562,
Thanks for the pics of your setup. It looks great. Now I need to decide whether to go with the Procharger bracket that obviously fits, or the A&A bracket that puts the blower on the pass side. The pass setup seems to look like a close fit with the radiator, but the piping can be run differently.
I'll have to give Bob a call and ask about some pricing, etc...
Thanks for the pics of your setup. It looks great. Now I need to decide whether to go with the Procharger bracket that obviously fits, or the A&A bracket that puts the blower on the pass side. The pass setup seems to look like a close fit with the radiator, but the piping can be run differently.
I'll have to give Bob a call and ask about some pricing, etc...
Here are somethings to think about when doing this. What motor mounts are you going to run. There are a bunch of configurations. I used the BRP. mounts in my Nova. The Procharger bracket for the Corvette will dimensionally hit the radiator. It was a little to close for my comfort any way. GTO bracket is out for the first gen F and X body subframe. The truck bracket is way to tall. I actually have a wooden template that i drew up and made and was going to have cnc cut to put the blower on the passenger side and use a reverse rotation blower. I will see if i can find the .dwg file for it and convert it to a pfd. and upload it here. The only down side to the Procharger kit is you have to run corvette accessories. Thats only a down side cause I had all F-body and GTO stuff already. A little planing goes along way in these conversion builds. Especially if you are on a budget.