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Old 01-20-2004, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by flynbludream
Agreed! Did he give you a feel for what one of those monsters would cost?

I am kind of afraid to ask
I've been talking to banks for the past 2 weeks about a 1,200 fwhp LS1 TT. They say they can easily do it and coincidentally have been designing their own parts for the LS1's, they will be ready to build them for people in May/April.

They also know John Meeney (1,340 hp TT 383 daily driven C4 blue Vette) who has been talking with them about my idea. I would rather have their 396ci TT 1,200 hp DART motor installed in my car, the DART motor and its parts are much better than the LS1 stuff. They said it can be boost controlled on-the-fly all the way down to ZERO boost then in 2 seconds turned up to MAX boost (25 psi). Its very streetable too.

They are figuring out a cost to have my car dropped off to them and picked up when its broken in. Also warranty info. I haven't heard from him today yet.



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They are developing LS1 TT systems right now.
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1200rwhp or 1200 flywheel hp? Big difference.
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Man if anyone can do it BANKS can. We have delt with them int the past with alot of diesel stuff and GAW...But still alot for the street. It also alot to ask for reliability of parts.
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yea i think they are talking flywheel hp, but still that would be insane. get more info on this but really, the whole deal seems to be very expensive. i assume we are talking over 25K on just a ls6 style motor on stock cubes? ofcourse i am totally assuming all this. post info when you find out.

quickin, do you have any idea how you are going to get that kind of power to the ground? esp in a car that weighs as much as a street car does (we arent talking about 2200 lbs pro stockers). driveline should be pretty expensive lol
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A 750 RWHP street car is so ridiculously out of control I cant see what you would do with an engine like that. Unless you are wanting to drive around a Pro-5.0 style race car around on the street, or mabye you just want to brag and say you have 1200+ HP... I guess there's merit in that
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It can be done. http://www.hphero.com/Home.htm I also have another customer in Austrailia working on a monster TT Holden. It will feature our intake.

Behind Bars and some others are currently working on a TT that should be in the 1200-1400 range with 409 iron block no C5R heads.

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We have a customer doing a 1700hp (crank)3rd gen in johanas berg south africa.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
quickin, do you have any idea how you are going to get that kind of power to the ground? esp in a car that weighs as much as a street car does (we arent talking about 2200 lbs pro stockers). driveline should be pretty expensive lol
Well, races from rolls starting at 50-70 mph will be allot easier than all-out launches from a dig as far as traction goes. If all these 1,000 RWHP Supras rae doing it on street radials, then 17" ET Street should do fine. BFG drags should do pretty good from a roll too, right?

And shouldn't it be easier to get traction with an F-Body that is more than 1,000 lbs. heavier than a 2,200 lb. Pro Stocker?
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
driveline should be pretty expensive lol

Custom built Ford 9" rear-end
TH-400 with Gearvendors overdrive

Banks knows John Meeney, the guy with the 1,300+ fwhp Vette. They said the TH-400 will handle anything they can throw at it especially for just a street car. Meeney's tranny is just fine. They also have a guy that builds the 4L85E to handle there power levels successfully.

Hell, my Strange 12 bolt should be fine for a street car too.
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the banks tt kits are on ebay,hmm between 5 and 8 grand?
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these suposedly 1000 rwhp supras (which there are only a couple in the country - most are liars) have extremely peaky numbers. their power is only in the last 1500 rpms of power with thier major single turbo cars. hell most of them have under 350 rwhp under 5000 rpms. if you want a 1200 rwhp or whatever sbc with twin turbos, you will have tq everywhere.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
these suposedly 1000 rwhp supras (which there are only a couple in the country - most are liars) have extremely peaky numbers. their power is only in the last 1500 rpms of power with thier major single turbo cars. hell most of them have under 350 rwhp under 5000 rpms. if you want a 1200 rwhp or whatever sbc with twin turbos, you will have tq everywhere.
I guess thats why they only like to race from rolls, eh?
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1000rwhp supras are rare. But 900rwhp supras are common. True they only make 700+ hp from say 4500-5000 rpm + But They rev to 8000. So thats a good 3000-3500rpm powerband. The powerband also helps the power come online more linear and therefore keeps the tirespin to a minimum. You could solve the problem on a V8 by going with a larger exhaust side turbine. I believe this is the system a guy on the boards that has an LT1 774rwhp/774rwtq camaro street car(INTMD8??) uses. I bet a cryo'd T-56 would stand up and would make the drivability way better (gas mileage/highway manner wise). Hell QMP made 750rwhp on a Stock LS1 engine @ 15psi. On a single turbo. I'd think a H/C version with stout internals would be easily over 1000rwhp with 25psi.
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Originally Posted by Hugger SS
Not impressed.....I ran 11.70s on street tires at 125 with NO HEAD WORK..just gutted cats and smooth tubes...I made 452 rwhp and 500 rwtq...He is well known on the LS1 sites, but no one that I have talked to in the Viper community seems to know about him

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Hmmm.....that's funny. I tuned one of the fastest FI Vipers in the Country. Surely you know Dr Roof? (9.8 @ 150+). In fact, I dyno/street tuned his car to its' highest HP ever, 867rwhp/968rwtq.

I've also only ran my Viper a few times. Mostly in 95+ degree weather. And when I went to Columbus for the Corvette vs Viper Shootout, I went 11.18 @ 126.81 against Tom Welch. (I out mph'd and out ET'd him all weekend on motor alone, and me with stock manifolds and Nitto's, while he had ET Streets and skinnies and Bellanger headers) Wouldn't you say Tom Welch is well-respected as having a powerful car?

We are currently developing a Twin Turbo System for the Viper. Between that, our TT C5 kit, and our F-Body kit, I haven't had a lot of time to play with the Viper on the motor alone.

And FWIW, you running 125 with 450rwhp in a 3500lb car (sans driver), doesn't really add up. I'd have to question the accuracy of the clock at the track where you ran/run.



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