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Old 05-20-2010, 02:46 PM
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1. Turbo is good for 1550
We were over 1200 with it last year. Good enough to run in the 8's at 15psi with pump e85 and L92 heads. The 47-88 is good enough for mid to bottom 8's on this setup.
2. Not a typo, 78mm FAST throttle body, see above. No problem with it at all. Pipe is still smaller then the od of the throttle body. Very efficient setup with very little charge piping.
3. Yes this is my old setup with a new Virginia Speed 370ci, with badass ETP heads, double o-ring and 1/2" head studs. Head lifting will not be an issue anymore.
This is still a street car with hydraulic roller and 3.0 gears in the 9" like I had last year. Great for the highway and still able to rip off 1.2-1.3 60fts.

After some issues with other Fuelab pumps here at the shop, we made the decision to switch to a Magnafuel Pro Series pump. Not willing to take a chance on a sketchy new style pump, when we know the Magnafuel will work great up to 2000hp.
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sick build I love it..

Great work Vee8 and everyone.
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Wow, that is going to be sick as all hell.
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pretty damn sick build!Cant wait to see what it puts down!
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I assume those are small bore ls7 heads? Sick build
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Originally Posted by veee8
1. Turbo is good for 1550
We were over 1200 with it last year. Good enough to run in the 8's at 15psi with pump e85 and L92 heads. The 47-88 is good enough for mid to bottom 8's on this setup.
What did it run before? How much did the car weigh?

Just because the compressor is rated at 1550 doesnt mean the exhaust will flow it on a larger motor.
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Originally Posted by black98ws6ta
What did it run before? How much did the car weigh?

Just because the compressor is rated at 1550 doesnt mean the exhaust will flow it on a larger motor.
I believe Chris' car hit 8's with that turbo.

National Speed does top notch work and i can't wait to get lined up with Matt's car on the highway, when my car is finished in a few weeks.
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dope. I like the plumbing. grade A work.
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Originally Posted by jasond26
I assume those are small bore ls7 heads? Sick build
Yes 4.0 bore LS7 ETP heads
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What did it run before? How much did the car weigh?

Just because the compressor is rated at 1550 doesnt mean the exhaust will flow it on a larger motor.
As stated many times before, went 8.80's very easilly, while lifting the weak *** L92 heads. At the time it was around 3700 lbs.
Same cubic inch as before too. Just a purpose built 1500hp heavy duty engine.

Again this is a proven 8 second STREET setup. Not the first rodeo.
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Originally Posted by veee8
1. Turbo is good for 1550
We were over 1200 with it last year. Good enough to run in the 8's at 15psi with pump e85 and L92 heads. The 47-88 is good enough for mid to bottom 8's on this setup.
2. Not a typo, 78mm FAST throttle body, see above. No problem with it at all. Pipe is still smaller then the od of the throttle body. Very efficient setup with very little charge piping.
3. Yes this is my old setup with a new Virginia Speed 370ci, with badass ETP heads, double o-ring and 1/2" head studs. Head lifting will not be an issue anymore.
This is still a street car with hydraulic roller and 3.0 gears in the 9" like I had last year. Great for the highway and still able to rip off 1.2-1.3 60fts.

After some issues with other Fuelab pumps here at the shop, we made the decision to switch to a Magnafuel Pro Series pump. Not willing to take a chance on a sketchy new style pump, when we know the Magnafuel will work great up to 2000hp.
I've been curious about those Fuelab pumps since see one at PRI last year. What kind of issues did you have?

Also, are you using the 4303 Magnafuel or one of the 4700 series? I been wondering if the 4700 series can be run continuous as they seem to flow more.
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Two 1000 hp fuelab pump failures, something internal going on. Replaced with an A1000, no issues at all. 500whp.
We have run a couple of their 1500 hp pumps in the past that seemed to work on a couple of different cars, but I believe the age old problem of getting too large, quality control went down, maybe moved the operation to foreign countries? I dont know, these newer pumps dont seem to as good as the ones from a little over a year ago.
I also had a fuelab regulator bad out of the box, diaphragm was ripped, they sent a new one free of charge. but I am no rolling the dice on the oumps anymore.
We are running the 4303 pump on this car, rated for continuous duty. The 4700 do have more volume potential, but I am not sure how they would like being run continuous on the street.
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those are some nice looking headers

how is the spark plug changes with them ?
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Awesome build! Thats gonna be a rocket ship!

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Originally Posted by Jordan_NationalSpeed
(disclaimer, I have an insatiable need to put my fist in large openings...)
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OK I admit it. I not only jerked off to the manifolds.......but the finished myself off with how clean and nice the shop looked!

I too am interested in plug clearance. I assume you unbolt the DP, and then do both sides from the bottom?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
I've been curious about those Fuelab pumps since see one at PRI last year. What kind of issues did you have?

Also, are you using the 4303 Magnafuel or one of the 4700 series? I been wondering if the 4700 series can be run continuous as they seem to flow more.
I will never sell another Fuelab Prodigy until they revert to their old design. This new design is so damned stupid I don't know what they were thinking. We designed and built a fuel system with a brand-new 1,000hp Prodigy on this car;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvOg6gq2-A

The fuel pump failed, we double and triple checked everything. It was all to specification, proper sized suction and feed lines, proper wiring and gauge wiring utilized, proper MAXI-style circuit breaker, proper HOB switch... It was all right, there was no reason it should fail like that.

So, we overnighted a second pump, installed it, and all seemed fine. Did a bit of street testing, and I called the customer to return the car. He was coming on the Saturday to pick it up which happened to be our M.A.D. (Military Appreciation Day) Dyno Day. The night before I took the car for one last test drive on low boost to make sure all was well... Got a block away from the shop, and I knew exactly what had happened, the damn fuel pump was dying again. I thankfully made it back to the shop, and after testing and checking everything once again, it was confirmed; another Fuelab Prodigy had failed for no reason, with less than two hours of dyno time, and less than 5 miles of street testing.

So, I had to call the customer to explain, and long story short in order to keep everything good, we had to install an Aeromotive A1000 the day of the dyno day, and deal with retuning a car for return on the dyno day.

What a mess.

So yeah, I'll never sell another Fuelab Prodigy again.
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Originally Posted by ninetres
OK I admit it. I not only jerked off to the manifolds.......but the finished myself off with how clean and nice the shop looked!

I too am interested in plug clearance. I assume you unbolt the DP, and then do both sides from the bottom?
Yes, it is very easy from the bottom, the front four can be had from up top though. The downpipe is 2 piece, with a band clamp and snakes out easy too.
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wow amazing looking build there!
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Build is coming along nicely!


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