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Old 06-07-2010, 07:03 PM
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my goal is to max out the setup, no meth just pump gas(91octane) someone stated above that a build motor isn't required for p1sc but I had no choice on the rebuild but should have stuck with more compression (9.1) I guess a d1 or f1 is in the future
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damn, i'm runnin 7.5 lbs on a 3.5 pulley and a stock bottom end, full exhaust, 42 lb injectors and i'm running 500 horses. i think its about time to get rid of the 4:10's though, when i'm really gettin in it i'm not in any gear for more than about 2 seconds. hmmm 3:42's maybe?
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Originally Posted by firefighterusaf
damn, i'm runnin 7.5 lbs on a 3.5 pulley and a stock bottom end, full exhaust, 42 lb injectors and i'm running 500 horses. i think its about time to get rid of the 4:10's though, when i'm really gettin in it i'm not in any gear for more than about 2 seconds. hmmm 3:42's maybe?
Might want to think that over long and hard. I had 4:10's in my stock 10 bolt and thought the same thing. Threw in a Midwest fab 9" with 3.90's and absolutely HATED!!! it. Made the car feel much slower and I lost 2-3lbs of boost. I paid the extra $500 to have the 4:10's installed in the 9". Just an FYI.


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Originally Posted by badass99ss
Might want to think that over long and hard. I had 4:10's in my stock 10 bolt and thought the same thing. Threw in a Midwest fab 9" with 3.90's and absolutely HATED!!! it. Made the car feel much slower and I lost 2-3lbs of boost. I paid the extra $500 to have the 4:10's installed in the 9". Just an FYI.


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Im starting to feel the same way... Only thinking of doing 3.73

Originally Posted by firefighterusaf
damn, i'm runnin 7.5 lbs on a 3.5 pulley and a stock bottom end, full exhaust, 42 lb injectors and i'm running 500 horses. i think its about time to get rid of the 4:10's though, when i'm really gettin in it i'm not in any gear for more than about 2 seconds. hmmm 3:42's maybe?
It doesnt make any sense why you would loose any boost switching gears... Ive never heard of that before
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Originally Posted by youngrigo
Im starting to feel the same way... Only thinking of doing 3.73



It doesnt make any sense why you would loose any boost switching gears... Ive never heard of that before
Because a procharger builds boost with RPM. When going to a lower gear the car builds rpm's much slower. I was only able to hit 5lbs with the 3.90's, went back to 4.10's and was back to 8lbs. Only change was the gear.


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Old 06-15-2010, 07:45 PM
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i dont see how that changes it when you still only hit a certain rpm
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Originally Posted by LSXFORMULA99
i dont see how that changes it when you still only hit a certain rpm
I agree. I don't see how gears make any kind of difference.
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Originally Posted by LSXFORMULA99
i dont see how that changes it when you still only hit a certain rpm
Think about it guys. The RPM's won't fall back as far after the shift and the motor will rev out faster with the 4.10's thus both = higher rpm and more boost.
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Originally Posted by flame
Think about it guys. The RPM's won't fall back as far after the shift and the motor will rev out faster with the 4.10's thus both = higher rpm and more boost.
I disagree about loosing boost tho! I see what your saying is that you will be at the higher boost longer..

But if at 5k RPM you make 6psi it doesnt matter if you have 2.73 or 4.10 gears you are spinning the supercharger the same speed at 5k RPM thus giving you the same boost!

Boost is relevent to RPM so it soesnt matter what gears you have your gonna make the same boost at the same RPM. and gears doesnt give you higher RPMs... You just get there faster!
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To the OP, don't forget the inlet restriction of the air filter that comes with the Pro Charger kit. Do some searches, you'll find there are big gains to be had in fixing that bottleneck. Also look into converting to a FMIC, like the one offered by EPP, my understanding is that the twins that come with the kit aren't necessarily the best case scenario either.

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Old 06-16-2010, 03:56 PM
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most people want 373s not 410s because u r in boost longer. if u have 410s u shift more. everytime u shift u lose boost.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pdasterly
Nothing special. I made 470 rwhp, with 5.7 9.1cr. ls9 cam headers, no cats, stock ls1 intake, 3.5 pulley, 42lb injectors. My injectors are maxed out
Which 42lbs injectors are you using? Cant be the M-9593-F302 (Green SVO's)....
Old 06-22-2010, 12:59 AM
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What about trap speeds? Dyno's can very.

Seams as tho mid 400's whp is about average.Would like to see a trap speed comparison.
Old 07-08-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MR2liter
I'm pretty sure it comes with a 3.4 pulley from procharger. Anything smaller will cause belt slip , so an overdrive crank pulley is the answer. Why build the motor when you can just add meth and find a good tuner!
ls1 p1sc-1 5 lbs. kit comes with a 4.0 pulley
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Ive trapped 128 running out of gear in 4th @ 6700

Stock with just the procharger and 5.5psi i made 397rwhp

Bolt ons and 6psi i made 468rwhp

Boltons and 9psi i made 523rwhp
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Originally Posted by youngrigo
Ive trapped 128 running out of gear in 4th @ 6700

Stock with just the procharger and 5.5psi i made 397rwhp

Bolt ons and 6psi i made 468rwhp

Boltons and 9psi i made 523rwhp
What type of pulley setup are you running on your 9psi setup?
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Originally Posted by MadIceV8
What type of pulley setup are you running on your 9psi setup?
Stock 6rib crank pulley and 3.0 on the head unit
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Well got my car off the dyno and it put down 486/459 @9psi in this 100+* Texas heat. My tuner said that this is easily a 530whp car come winter time.
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3.20 pulley


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