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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Default Survey says (dyno session #3)... 705rwhp with 348ci LS1 + YS Trim!!!

I don't even know how to start off this thread, that's a first.

Last night Intmd8 (Jim M.), who is the tuner at Speed Inc. (www.ls1speed.com) was able to dyno my car for the third time... and the results were awesome:

705rwhp!

Let me do a quick recap of the car's setup and the results from the last three dyno sessions:

98 Formula
9.1:1 LS6 block, 6.0 Heads, Engine built by Speed Inc.
FMS 230/236//115//+2 cam (Cam Motion)
Diamond Pistons
Eagle 6.125 rods
Stock 5.7 crankshaft
3.905 bore LS6 crate block
6.0 heads, 69CC chambers
MLS 6.0 head gaskets
Stock waterpump
Bauer Stock ported TB
Stock ported oil pump
Y/T 1.7 rockers
Comp R Lifters
Dual timing chain
Stock LS1 MAF, descreened
LS6 Intake
ARP main studs
Dave White Head studs
Griffin frontmount air/air intercooler
Vortech YS Trim
8 rib pulley setup
Custom blower brackets, tensioner, piping by SS Racing
FAST bank to bank ECU; Cartek crank signal box; LS1 Edit
Kooks 1.875>2.000 step headers, 3.5 collectors
Kooks 3.5 >3 X pipe with ATR mufflers, dumped
Turbo 400 transmission, non lockup
Yank U4000 nine inch converter
Moser nine inch rearend, 4.11 gears
Short belt, no power steering
Hooser 28x10.5x15 slicks
Mixture of VP C12 and 93 Octane
Weldon 2025 external fuel pump
Weldon regulator
Speed Inc. drag gas tank
SS Racing fuel rails

Engine, built and installed by Dan and Jim @ Speed Inc.
Dual Exhaust installed by Speed Inc.
Custom blower brackets, tensioner, and piping built and installed by Chris and Kurt Sikora @ SS Racing
FAST system purchased from Cartek, overall car has been tuned by Jim @ Speed Inc. with major input from Cartek, SS Racing and Bob Kurgan
Vortech supercharger setup designed, installed, and revised by Chris @ SS Racing and Bob Kurgan (pulley choices, location of blower, etc.)
FAST install, fuel system, custom wiring, overall engineering by Chris and Kurt Sikora @ SS Racing (www.ssracing.net)
Griffin intercooler designed by Jimmy Burns with Griffin Thermal Products
Overall package devised by me, Chris @ SS Racing, Bob Kurgan (engine displacement, blower choice, header sizes, selection of FAST system, fuel system., etc)
Thanks to John and Ricky @ Vortech Superchargers for sponsoring the project and providing support doing the project buildup



A few dyno comments:

Dyno #1
-450rwhp
-6 psi
-Slipping blower belt
-Electrical anomaly noted when datalogging

Dyno #2
-560rwhp
-14 psi
-Overly large torque converter, the old one flashed to 6900 during the pulls
-Some belt slippage noted
-Electrical anomaly largely gone

Dyno #3
-705rwhp
-Roughly 17 psi
-23 degrees of timing at WOT
-New Yank U4000 converter installed
-Belt was tightened, early pull was 666rwhp with slippage
-Pulled to 6700


Jim is planning to dyno the car one more time in the near future to play with the tune some more and to do some more formal testing of the Griffin intercooler. But Jim told me last night that he was very impressed with this intercooler.

If we were to assume that the drivetrain loss through the Moser nine inch rearend and the non lockup turbo 400 transmission was ~20%, that means the engine is producing 840fwhp.

I did not sleep at all last night I was so excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks and continued thanks to all the folks who have helped this project come together!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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John, that's freakin awesome! Glad to see it coming together!!

I know we had this discussion in another thread about drivetrain loss, but what would you estimate % on an M6 with a Moser 9"?

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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Sweet deal, now hurry up and call the wether gods and order some nice weather to start racing!!!
Congrats! Speed did some great stuff for you.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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YOu must be disapointed

you should be able to dip in the 9.50's as long as your not to heavy

congrats.

you still drive it on the street with the 400turbo and no power steering?

what tire size you using and what are you planning on trapping at what rpm with the 400 and 4.11 gears? doesnt see high enough

will the 28" tire be good for the 140's you should be at?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Nice to see one of your projects finally work.

Congrats and enjoy!
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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I also want to thanks Harlan and ScottWS6 for their help, Harlan helped pick the longblock components, and ScottWS6 helped with assessing the dyno numbers and the direction of the stock cube setup...
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Very Cool! Can you post the Dyno Graph?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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yah post it up, this thread is moving fast
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Very fast. maybe 9's!!
john, no thanks to me? I was a good ball buster!
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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Great HP what was the TQ????
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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Let me see if they can get us dyno graph today.

It was hard for them to get a solid torque reading since it's a non lockup converter, but it was around 625rwtq I think.

Doug I have heard 10% loss for T56 setups.

Smokin, I am going to remove the 4.11 gear and install a 3.70 or 3.50 gear. I will race on a 28x10.5 M/T ET Drag.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Great job!! Cant wait to see track results!! What gear/tire combo again? 3.50/28?

Should be easy nines

Manual valvebody in the tranny and shiftlight right?

You are going to have a lot of suspension tuning to do me thinks

Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Yah, manual valvebody and big ol' 5" tach mounted in the center.

The elders feel that 3.70/28 is the best combo.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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705 unlocked ? awesome numbers man.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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Good job guys...... John, if you can't sleep now what will it be like after you put it on kill and let the brake go for the first time? I want a picture of the smile on that pass!
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Great Numbers, 705rwhp!
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Thanks John!
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Thats fuggin badass! Congrats on a sweet combo.. get it to the TRACK!
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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nice numbers.

You have never driven a car that powerful have you John?
Do you plan on getting a NHRA license now?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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Congrats John... looks like it's really coming together!

Track times would be awesome...



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