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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SScott
LMAO he doesn't have a bad *** job he's making something like 16 bucks an hour...
We've been laughing at him on Norcal LSX.

Actually to the OP, after going over a few of yours posts on NorcalLSX, let me break down YOUR build for you.

402 CI LQ4/9 block- Anywhere from $3,500-$5,000 depending on crank and pistons
Either a FAST or Vic. Jr Intake- Fast 92/92 is going to be $1,400-$1,500
AFR 225 heads- $2,500+ with gaskets and if you want them ported, etc
Chromeoly pushrods - $120-$140
Cam- $400

ATI Procharger F-1A - 7k+, especially by the time your done with any special fittings, balancer, belts, etc.

Fuel System from Nasty Performance is going to be $1599.99 for the stage 3 kit, and another $799.99 for injectors. Yes, you can do what Mightymouse did. It may or may not work for you, and its kind of a pain in the *** if you don't have the knowledge and tools.


Suspension- MWC 9"- $4,000-$5,000
Misc needed parts from UMI/ BMR- $1,000-$3,000. Front shocks, K-Member, rear drag bar, SFCs, etc.

4l80e or T56- A QUALITY built 4l80 to handle 800rwhp is going to be $4,000-$5,000 EASILY from any reputable shop. FLT/Rossler/ whatever. The T56 will end up being the same after a good clutch. I believe Liberty rebuilds run anywhere from $1,500-$3,000 not counting the clutch.


Kooks 1 7/8" headers-
Magnaflow catback
Custom Y

Thats another $2,000+

Then realistically figure in another $3,000 for a tune, misc parts, shipping, yada yada.

Thats $31,327 on the LOW end and over $35,000 on the high end, and to tell you the truth it will probably cost more than that. I'm not trying to scare you at all but the prices I listed are no bullshit. Whenever you do a build like this it ALWAYS costs WAY more than you plan it out to be. Not to mention several hundred labor hours...and do you trust yourself to assemble a build this serious?

Hopefully that puts it into perspective coming from someone whos done this build minus the blower and add nitrous. If it were my car I would do a mild head/cam on a stock LS1 car and spray it, OR do a DIY truck manifold turbo kit on a stock car. Either setup would run 10's, it would be reliable, and something you could realistically afford.

I know a lot of guys on here like Mightymouse make this **** look easy but its really not. David has a HELL of a setup. Good luck with whatever route you choose.

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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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not to mention one of the fastest LSX nitrous cars in the country is driven by a 18 yr old and tuned by a 16yr old.

dont let anyone tell you that you cant do it, im 23 and knocking on some 5's in the 8th, best thing to do is get some older friends that have been around this stuff and learn as much as you can

and $16/hr is damn good money where im from
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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When I was 18 years old I built my 404ci stroker on $9.50/hr over the period of two years. It can be done, but only if you live on Ramen Noodles. I was going to say $16/hr is OKAY money where I'm at but if your in California I would assume with your cost of living thats not much higher than minimum wage.

I don't know, I gave my .02. I know my debt vs income ratio is pretty decent and I couldn't afford half of that build. After spending...errr wasting wayy too much money since I've owned this car I've learned simplicity is the easiest route unless you make bank.

To the OP, if they are giving you **** just buy a 99-02 LSX car. Find a LQ9 at a junkyard and put a cheater cam in it. Get Nitro daves spare tire well stand alone and hit that thing with 3 kits. That will show them....for a pass or two.
Haha, I have a pretty cheap living cost, much cheaper than most. Those guys on Norcal-lsx are just being ******** because they can't stand the thought of an 18-20 year old being faster than them because I'm younger. I live pretty cheaply and work a shitload. I did some math to show them I could do it and it makes perfect sense and they're still acting retarded and say I can't do it. ok then, glad they all know me so well, I forgot that they've been with me every step of the way in the past year of my life. Stupid me

SScott, you're just being a stupid dick, gtfo. Just stfu, you're beating a dead horse


Originally Posted by 1Loudz28
Christ, I missed this post.

Have you even taken that "520rwhp" car down the track at WOT? or has you mommy/daddy just let you take it around the block?

Good luck, I hope you have good medical insurance.
Yes, just not at a track. Highway and street. I can manage that. 800 will be intense, I have no doubt.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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We're actually just trying to put your lame *** life into perspective for you before you make some serious decisions with money that you will probably end up regretting after you get kicked out of your grandmother $250 a month room.

You can't even handle your underpowered v6, which you clearly demonstrated when you decided to pull out and sideswipe someones car, then tried to act like they hit you.

Get a grip on reality. $16 an hour, hell, $20 an hour isn't **** out here in Cali.

Hope that 9 sec car comes with a shower and a *******.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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We're actually just trying to put your lame *** life into perspective for you before you make some serious decisions with money that you will probably end up regretting after you get kicked out of your grandmother $250 a month room.

You can't even handle your underpowered v6, which you clearly demonstrated when you decided to pull out and sideswipe someones car, then tried to act like they hit you.

Get a grip on reality. $16 an hour, hell, $20 an hour isn't **** out here in Cali.

Hope that 9 sec car comes with a shower and a *******.
How about stop helping me and gtfo? I don't want your help. Enough. I can handle the v6, you know nothing about that situation, clearly. My grandmother $250 a month room? stfu and gtfo. $16 an hour isn't bad, it only increases a few dollars an hour every few months. I live cheap and I'm able to pay my bills. I don't have the full bills you or most adults pay, I know what it costs for me to make my living and I know what can be done with it. You don't, so stop trying to sound smart and act like your giving good advice, just stfu wait a year or so and we'll see where I'm at.

Glad to see you're so caring and generous, I appreciate you trying to help me out with my 'lame *** life'. *******.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Man just a few months ago you were ARRESTED for L I V I N G in your car.

Hows the view?
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:57 PM
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also if im not mistaking you have a v6 car? gonna have to get a new engine harness also... an who is doing the install on the stuff? cause that **** aint cheap.. usually anywhere from 50 to 75 an HOUR!!!! so look at like 5k for install if not more. And you also lefted out gauges so thats another 1000 bucks.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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Man just a few months ago you were ARRESTED for L I V I N G in your car.

Hows the view?
I lived in my car for a day and a half dumbshit. Just goes to show you, once again, have NO idea what you're talking about. The cops only cuffed me and searched me because they got a call about a 'suspicious character' in a Firebird behind a grocery store. It was in early July, when I was 17, right after I packed up my **** and left my family and had no money to my name. I've made a complete 180 with my life since then, that was when I was first starting before I had a job, a place to live or even food to eat. You're just pissed because I'm a young guy in an expensive place whose actually making something of himself and you're doing the same thing everyday and you're just trying to exert some anger and your prickness out on an 18 year old who really just doesn't give a ****. At the end of the day, I'm doing a lot better than 98% of people in my age group and you're at home an adult with his own bills problems and salary arguing with an 18 year old and trying (and failing) to make him look stupid. Just stop. Please.


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also if im not mistaking you have a v6 car? gonna have to get a new engine harness also... an who is doing the install on the stuff? cause that **** aint cheap.. usually anywhere from 50 to 75 an HOUR!!!! so look at like 5k for install if not more. And you also lefted out gauges so thats another 1000 bucks.

I plan on doing most of it myself aside from maybe building the shortblock. That's something I REALLY REALLY don't wanna **** up. The other work is 3/4 the fun of it though, and I want to learn and know how to do it. I won't stop till I know for sure what I'm doing. I also want to know enough to if a problem arises, I'll be able to fix the car myself since I installed most of the parts in it. That's the plan anyways
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I'll add to this. It sounds like you have a great plan no doubt, but you need to tone down your initial build. Do you have another car to drive all the time when this thing will inevitably break? Can you afford the tickets you will get? If you think a black T/A with a blower that sounds like and old steam powered locomotive will just slip under the cops radar, you're smoking something good.

I would say, get your T/A, fix up the suspension and driveline to handle the power you eventually want, and get used to running it before you jump into a huge, expensive, problem filled build.

I don't doubt that you could do it. When I was 18 I owned a 640rwhp 300zx, I worked 3 jobs to support it, and it ultimately left me stranded 9 times out of 10 anyways. Do what you want, its your money, but it won't be all cupcakes and sunshine. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Lots of ******* responses in this thread. If you don't think he can do it or should do it, that's your opinion. If not just to be respectful, then just for the sake of posterity, answer the damn questions or don't post!

I think most of the responses that actually answered your question covered most of it. I will add this, though: I'd do it in stages. Without spending all the money at once, you can break your build down into stages and just do one stage at a time. This will make troubleshooting problems, paying the bills, and deciding what you want easier. Come up with a full plan, figure out what parts you can do together, and then do one stage at a time. As time goes on, you may find you want to make changes to your end goals.

For example, I have a D-1SC car that I started with stock. I'd never even changed a set of spark plugs, but 5 years later I've done almost all the work myself. I started with the simple bolt-ons to get some confidence. Then, I took a leap and installed a cam that was a little wild for a blower but a little timid for N/A with the intention of keeping it when I got the blower. Then, I moved on to forged internals. Suspension, clutch, and lots of practice racing the car went in there somewhere. Then, I built up the fuel system. Then came the blower.

I'd also recommend that you start learning to tune right away. I never did learn to tune when I was NA, which I regret. The last thing I wanted to do was to learn on a blown car, and now that's my only option.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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if you have the money and resources, screw it, build the baddest bitch you can and run slap over everyone, biggest thing is to learn to respect the power the car makes, it can be the difference of life and death
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