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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Currently im running open loop speed density with HP tuners and now that the whole turbo kit is apart I have the chance to weld in bungs on the cross over. Do you guys think im better off saying open loop or would I benifit from running closed loop?(I do daily drive and the car was fine all summer--just had to tune it a lot)
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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I went from closed loop to open loop strictly because i like the fueling to do what i want it too

once my low load was tuned well it stayed very consistent day to day AFR wise
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The only issue I have is I have 83lbs injectors so the VE error tuning is incorrect. If it says its 7% low and I add even just 3.5% it ends up going to 4+% over so I have to use very small increments.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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yeah go ahead and put em in. I always tune in open loop (of course) and picked up a ton of MPG by going back into closed after a couple months. Its nice being able to use fuel trims, and moreso, idle trims
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Even with the 83lbsers?
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if i remember right, you can limit the amount of trim it will use. Otherwise if you just have cheap injectors they will never work that good, you can do 100-120lb hig imp injectors in closed loop if they are a quality piece
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My 83lbs are FIC high impedance.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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oh you shouldnt have any problems with those then, I know alot of people with 1000s and 1200s in their cars that DD them, no problems
just takes some extra work. And if it doesnt work, put it back in OL, not really out anything
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I used OL with short term trims enabled. Best of both worlds in my opinion. WOT fueling does what I command (no LTFTs), but cruising allows for STFTs to help with mpg.
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Just my opinion, I run lowZ 83's and I think the trims would be all over the place trying manage such a large injector in CL. Just an opinion.
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Good point.
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