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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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Okay, I'm not quite sure what has been going on here lately. But I know for a fact I'm getting really tired of arguing over nearly every post I make. Maybe it's me, maybe I'm argumentative, maybe I'm just too proud. But whatever the case may be, this is taking too much out of me. I end up staying up all night defending and explaining myself.

I think from now on (or at least for a while) I will leave my posts off this board. I'll continue to update the website with details as I see fit. If someone has questions, all they have to do is call or email me. I will also use this "away time" to decide whether or not we will continue to sell turbo systems at all. As I said in an earlier post, selling ProCharger's is MUCH easier, and a lot more profitable.

This way, maybe I can get some sleep.

I would like to thank the large number of you that have continued to support us. Your posts and emails of encouragement meant a lot.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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Rob,
U have one of the best turbo kits out there..... Don't stop making them. 35rwhp per psi is damn good in my scale and any other tuner. Keep the good work.
Oh before u take ur time off.... answer the questions in the other thread LOL
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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I've been lurking on here for a while reading about your progress etc. I have registered especially today to thank you for sharing your findings with us. I feel that a few people on here owe you an apology.

Can you please post a link to where you will be posting your progress so that I can continue to follow? Thanks.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 02:25 AM
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Thanks so much. The link to our website is in my signature. There will always be a link to the Project Formula on the Home Page.

Have a nice weekend.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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Rob, you are arguementative, and it seems more ppl realize this. Its fun for some ppl to try and get your goat, and you make it easy as well. But, this is a part of business, life and all that. It aint killing you, its making you stronger right? Then get back to informing some of us interested ppl and realize you cant please all the ppl all the time. If everyone was to be like this, then we wouldnt make an progress anywhere.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 05:10 AM
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This would be a huge loss for the LSx Turbo development. Rob you are a competetive person by nature, that is why you take criticism so personally. It is probably also what has given you the reputation as one of the top two LSx turbo tuners currently out there. To be honest I don't think there is a whole lot of criticism of you work at all. Your decision to not sell your systems as a kit was a step in the right direction. IMO you have gained more respect by what you are doing/have done than you even realize. People used to swear that a stock LS1 couldn't handle more than 500 rwhp for long with FI. You have proven that wrong.

It does probably make sense from a business standpoint to only sell prochargers, but any monkey tuner out there can bolt on a procharger and pull 450 rwhp out of these cars. What you are doing is amazing. If you aren't enjoying building crazy turbo kits then you probably shouldn't do it. If it is more stress than it is worth then take a break for a while. There is no other tuner out there currently besides LPE that has a rep like you. LPE doesn't sell their turbo systems as a kit and now you know why. If you can keep showing everyone what your systems can do, people will buy them. I know there are a lot of people on CF that are watching your C5TT kit very closely.

I sincerely hope you continue to post your results and be accessible on this board. You just need to learn when people are just trying to provoke you and let your products speak for themselves. .02c
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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I have to agree.. Rob, I logon LS1Tech daily and check the Forced Induction with excitement just to see your news. No matter where you post this, there will always be doubters. I'd hate to see LS1Tech loose such valuable and informative posts as yours. With each groundbreaking post you make.. lots of folks have questions, and you always take time to address them. When you do this, I, and several others really learn alot. I'd hate to see it come to this, but it if it does.. I know what I'm doing......

*sets qmp as homepage*

Peace,
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
I would like to thank the large number of you that have continued to support us. Your posts and emails of encouragement meant a lot.
Read down this thread, Rob. You can see that there are many, many more people out there that appreciate all you've done than post. One poster registered just to tell you that.

You're well appreciated, by too many to list, that do post here. The painful fact is that the arrogant, ignorant and prideful individuals get the biggest press on a board like this and LS1.****. Too bad because this board is about the last one left that hasn't yet turned into a 20-something, pot-shot, free-for-all.

Remember to let your friends know what's going on with you, your family, and your shop... Some of them haven't heard from you in a while.

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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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Come on Rob, stop your whining It great what you do. Peolple are always going to be skeptical, especially if you are proving all the nay-sayers wrong. Just keep plugging away and don't take the criticism defensively. Look at the comments as suggestions and comliment those that are critical for their inputs. I know this is tough at times, but it goes a lot farther in business than lashing back and getting defensive.

Off my hypocritical soap-box now
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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I always enjoy reading your threads and the ensuing arguments

I wouldn't stop posting here, besides I think things have calmed down a lot!

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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Rob,
Get some sleep , have a few beers take some time off then post your new updates. Just make one original post and don't respond to all the haters/keyboard mechanics.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Thanks again everyone. I just think that maybe I am starting to get too irritated myself. Maybe I'm taking things too personally, but as I said, I'm prideful of what we do here.

It's not like I'm going to stop posting over here all together. Just about the specifics of our Project Car developments. And again, I'll still keep them updated on our website. I just think maybe I'd rather show up at the track and answer questions in person if/when we make an impressive run. A lot less likely that arguments will break out there.

The more I think about it, if I had posted my results here, others who were making 650-750rwhp may have been content. Now I'm sure they are all gunning for us. I think I'd rather Shock and Awe 'em at the track.

Yep...I think we'll call it "Top Secret Formula" from now on....
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Rob ...

Well, I don't have a turbo LS1. In fact, I don't even have an LS1 anymore (since I totaled my 98 TA), but ... Being an ex-TTA owner and wrencher, I find your posts very interesting.

Keep us updated ... Great reading!

Ron,
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Rob, I know exactly what you are saying.

I have found myself getting pretty upset as people have responded to my posts (not on this board, but on some others, and this is just a hobby for me). I let it get under my skin for a bit and then I realized that it is just the nature of the medium and you have to learn to read between the lines.

The same people that probably irritate you on the board might be the ones you like the most in person. Things just come across wrong in words alone and you don't get to see the body language part of the communication. It's so easy for people to bash you when they are hiding behind a keyboard.

There is even an article about this in the first few pages of the March issue of HotRod.

Anyway, I think boards like this have more positives than negatives and you just have to ignore the negative BS.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Rob,
Don't let all this internet garbage get you down...Your time slips/dyno sheets/amazing creations speak for themselves.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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QuickSilver2002 - I think that was a very accurate assessment. I agree 150%. I'm just gonna take things slow for a while....
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Let me see, 1886 views of your last update, 1 or 2 whiners/keyboard experts, I think thats like a .05% ratio. I bet the other 99.95 % of the people like your updates, I know I do. Now, about that TT kit for the C5??
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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Hey Brian! Give me a call Monday if you get a chance. Got a set of LS6 heads coming your way early this week. They need your magic touch to get 'em "boost ready".

TT for your C5? Ready when you are... We can talk about that tomorrow too.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Rob,
I have said it more that once that you are the best there is on these boards when it comes to turbos. There is no one that I know of, that has done so much testing and informing us of the testing. I didn't want a turbo didn't even let it cross my mind until, you posted the first #'s from Shawn's car. From that day forward I have been telling everyone I know that this is the way I will be going in the future. I even keep copys of the you turbo webpage in my truck and car to show people. You are the turbo king in my eyes and when I get done building up my drivetrian and Suspension You and only You will get a car pulling up in your shop with NC tags ready for a turbo.
Sincerely,
Kevin
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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Rob if you stop posting we will trash you for not posting.. The majority of us love your post and yes we like reading some of the arguments as well, but NO ONE CAN DENY YOU HAVE A AWESOME TURBO SETUP.. Keep posting..
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