Whipple question
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Whipple question I am looking into a new Camaro SS and was looking into a Whipple. I was wondering what this charger is capable of with a LS3 418 or 427 built for FI. A forged bottom end and a built top end with CNC'd 6 bolt heads and a solid roller cam. I will also be doing all the drivetrain and suspension upgrades as needed.
I am not interested in turbo's or a procharger so please don't junk up my thread with why turbo's and prochargers are better etc. etc. I was also looking at the BDS LS blower and have seen the prototype design but was wondering if it will fit in the car. I think that would be just nasty. If you have not seen what I am talking about here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9JoDbECn0
I am not interested in turbo's or a procharger so please don't junk up my thread with why turbo's and prochargers are better etc. etc. I was also looking at the BDS LS blower and have seen the prototype design but was wondering if it will fit in the car. I think that would be just nasty. If you have not seen what I am talking about here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9JoDbECn0
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I am looking into a new Camaro SS and was looking into a Whipple. I was wondering what this charger is capable of with a LS3 418 or 427 built for FI. A forged bottom end and a built top end with CNC'd 6 bolt heads and a solid roller cam. I will also be doing all the drivetrain and suspension upgrades as needed.
I am not interested in turbo's or a procharger so please don't junk up my thread with why turbo's and prochargers are better etc. etc. I was also looking at the BDS LS blower and have seen the prototype design but was wondering if it will fit in the car. I think that would be just nasty. If you have not seen what I am talking about here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9JoDbECn0
I am not interested in turbo's or a procharger so please don't junk up my thread with why turbo's and prochargers are better etc. etc. I was also looking at the BDS LS blower and have seen the prototype design but was wondering if it will fit in the car. I think that would be just nasty. If you have not seen what I am talking about here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9JoDbECn0
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The new Whipple 2.9L Camaro kit would work great on a 418. I would keep about the same compression ratio as a stock LS3. Also, Whipple is releasing a new water cooled 4.5L blower around April which will be killer. This is their thread over on the Corvette forum, Dustin is the owner: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...te-system.html
Has anyone looked into the 6-71 or 8-71 blower like what is in the concept video above. I think this is just bad ***. It's a mix of old school looks with new school muscle, it gives me chills thinking about it.
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Whipple The new Whipple 2.9L Camaro kit would work great on a 418. I would keep about the same compression ratio as a stock LS3. Also, Whipple is releasing a new water cooled 4.5L blower around April which will be killer. This is their thread over on the Corvette forum, Dustin is the owner: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...te-system.html
The Magna charger uses a roots style charger, which is based on RPM. Which means you will get full boost at high RPM and it gradually increases along with the RPM. Whipple is a screw design which means you get full boost off of pretty much idle. Once you smash the gas, you get 6psi all the way up to redline. That gives you a nice punch from anywhere in the RPM range.
As far as noise goes, you hear the Magna more during normal driving because it is based on RPM. With the Whipple, boost is based on throttle position, so if you are crusing at 1/4 throttle, you do not even know it is there.
They are both good superchargers.
We have installed and dynoed many whipple and magnachargers.
As i have a magnacharger on my TBSS.
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1243
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I just got off the phone with someone over at Whipple and all he had to say was you will just sping the charger at those levels and that I wont be able to make 800rwhp on their charger. I asked him what his suggestion was and he said to contact my builder and they can help you out.
To say the least I am pretty much done with Whipple and will be contacting BDS to hopefully be the first to put the big blower on the car.
To say the least I am pretty much done with Whipple and will be contacting BDS to hopefully be the first to put the big blower on the car.
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I just found out BDS is in the process of making a LS3 intake that will fit the the 8-71 blower. So the concept rendering above will soon be a reality. The only question is will it fit without hacking up the cowl and firewall.
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The bds blower will stick out of the hood, as there intake manifolds are raised high.
How much power are you looking to make?
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Yeah it will be just like the blower camaro concept above. Not to mention the first one that I know of in a 2010/11/12 camaro. I would be more than happy with a 1000hp engine but I would like around 800rwhp. Not a all out drag car just a show/street car with occasional strip time is the plan. I like to drive alot and I like to have that power there when I need or want it.
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Yeah it will be just like the blower camaro concept above. Not to mention the first one that I know of in a 2010/11/12 camaro. I would be more than happy with a 1000hp engine but I would like around 800rwhp. Not a all out drag car just a show/street car with occasional strip time is the plan. I like to drive alot and I like to have that power there when I need or want it.
http://www.scottmarlow.net/Superchar...r_Intakes.html
These guys have the ROOTS blower you are looking for TO MAKE THAT KIND OF POWER.
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What's the highest rwhp car you have driven on the street? A roots blown car is ridiculous from 2000rpm up. My old 68 Impala was only mid 500's on a blown 377 and it was retarded at wide open throttle.
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I currently have a 95 camaro with a 427 LSX swap. It dynoed 614rwhp on the dyno.
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http://www.machinetechracing.com/files/index.php?id=13
These guys have the ROOTS blower you are looking for TO MAKE THAT KIND OF POWER.
These guys have the ROOTS blower you are looking for TO MAKE THAT KIND OF POWER.
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Here is dyno vid tune on BBC with a BDS 871.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Collingd...85/Jtgt7iXFk-w
