E85 with no intercooler
02-16-2011, 11:03 PM
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You live in Arizona Buddy, I would like to know the answer to this as well. IAT's are high as it is because of the obvious during the summer, it would suck to get the kit done just to find out you need the IC.
02-16-2011, 11:53 PM
#3
The thing of it is, since it is EFI you can't really see how much the fuel spray is cooling the charge. With the blow through stuff the intake stays cold. What about putting the injectors farther up in the runners of my Super Vic? I also my do some pre and post turbo water/meth(windshield fluid) injection.
02-17-2011, 08:24 AM
#4
Exactly. The blow thru effect is similar to mounting a meth nozzle before the TB on an injected car. With FI, the fuel doesn't have much chance to effect the IATs. You will be able to run a few more PSI on e85 vs pump gas on the same setup non-intercooled but will still be severely limiting your total power. I'm running e85 and A2W IC which keeps IATs super cool.
02-17-2011, 10:23 AM
#6
I was running 10.7:1 static CR with 8psi of boost, 24* of timing and no IC with no problems on E85
was spraying a little bit of 50/50 meth/water
added an IC this winter though, didn't really have to, just did i guess
was spraying a little bit of 50/50 meth/water
added an IC this winter though, didn't really have to, just did i guess
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02-17-2011, 12:54 PM
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02-17-2011, 06:50 PM
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Exactly. The blow thru effect is similar to mounting a meth nozzle before the TB on an injected car. With FI, the fuel doesn't have much chance to effect the IATs. You will be able to run a few more PSI on e85 vs pump gas on the same setup non-intercooled but will still be severely limiting your total power. I'm running e85 and A2W IC which keeps IATs super cool.
02-17-2011, 08:19 PM
#11
I'm running 2 large heat exchangers which equate to the size of a stock fbody radiator. However I'm sure it's overkill and plan on converting one to an oil cooler. The car is still in the shop so no cruising iat logs yet. On the dyno with room temp water in the tank the iats peaked at mid 60s under WOT. Being that it's a procharger (no heat soak from exhaust gasses), running e85, and A2W IC i'm sure the cruising iats would be "chilly".
02-17-2011, 08:43 PM
#12
There is actually lots of room in the front if you remove the crash bar. There is also enough room to get 2.5 tubes down to the sides. I'm trying the treadstone 9" vertical flow unit with a twin 67 427. That's the best off the shelf unit that I know of but its not going to support 1500. You will need a good core such as Bell with good designed endtanks and a vertical core so you can route it right to the Tb over the radiator. You could go through the framerail but the less 90's the better off you are.
02-18-2011, 10:39 AM
#14
The CX racing unit is rated at 700 CFm and 600-700 crank hp. Outlet is positioned to go around through the framerail or around in the fenderwell.
The Treadstone unit is rated at 1950 CFM and rated at 1300 crank hp. Core is 1" wider and 2" higher. It also offers the 15 degree angle with the outlet in the ideal spot to go over the radiator in a GTO. I believe the Treadstone also has an inner fin bar and plate design that the CX may not.
The Treadstone unit is rated at 1950 CFM and rated at 1300 crank hp. Core is 1" wider and 2" higher. It also offers the 15 degree angle with the outlet in the ideal spot to go over the radiator in a GTO. I believe the Treadstone also has an inner fin bar and plate design that the CX may not.
02-18-2011, 02:34 PM
#15
The CX racing unit is rated at 700 CFm and 600-700 crank hp. Outlet is positioned to go around through the framerail or around in the fenderwell.
The Treadstone unit is rated at 1950 CFM and rated at 1300 crank hp. Core is 1" wider and 2" higher. It also offers the 15 degree angle with the outlet in the ideal spot to go over the radiator in a GTO. I believe the Treadstone also has an inner fin bar and plate design that the CX may not.
The Treadstone unit is rated at 1950 CFM and rated at 1300 crank hp. Core is 1" wider and 2" higher. It also offers the 15 degree angle with the outlet in the ideal spot to go over the radiator in a GTO. I believe the Treadstone also has an inner fin bar and plate design that the CX may not.
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...2C+GM%2C+Viper
http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...gory_Code=INCO
02-18-2011, 03:02 PM
#16
Yes I was. That one looks ok, but I dont like the squared off end tanks. Kind of like a log manifold, lots of turbulance.
Treadstone does not manufacture their own cores but they are manufactured in America and they claim to be very similar to Bell or Garrett. Cant say that for CX racing.
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...install-16.pdf
Ive used both brands. I dont have any actual intake air temp or pressure drop comparisons but the Treadstone is a quality piece IMO. I think its worth the extra.
Treadstone does not manufacture their own cores but they are manufactured in America and they claim to be very similar to Bell or Garrett. Cant say that for CX racing.
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...install-16.pdf
Ive used both brands. I dont have any actual intake air temp or pressure drop comparisons but the Treadstone is a quality piece IMO. I think its worth the extra.
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