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Old 03-25-2011, 10:10 PM
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yeah and the oil-less setup is alot more, I beleive the retail on a billet 8079 TBB oil-less was around $2400 shipped last time I called, but dont quote me on it! I get them for cost though, so ill have to check i didnt write it down
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So what kind of pricing for the oil less 7271 with basic compressor wheels and like with. 1.00 a/r
For just 600-700rw for remote mount
I just got real interested
I hate e oil pumps and mechanical scavenge pumps cost more than the conventional turbo itself
I would def pay to run a reliable remote setup without a e oil pump
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$2400 is outside my ballpark! I picked up my pt88 for $1270 shipped new in the f.s. section. Looks like i'll be sticking with it and spool wont be an issue with 10:1 cr & 402" i'm sure. Thanks for the info. Maybe one day when the budget isn't so tight i'll have one.
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like I said thats retail price. Case in point I just got a new billet 6768 TBB but with oil, and retail was like $1800, I paid $1170 or so. I think the 8079 oilless will be around $1800 for me to buy but cant gurantee it till I call in
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Hmmm intersting two 70 mm up front on a vette 1000 HP +. I want to see these things punished befor i drop a dime. I email them with no response on how much heat they can handle. This wuld be a great solution to my dreams of a tt vette rearmoutn for front mount. I HATE PUMPS!!!!!
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I've had pump fail before
Not a good thing due to electrical gremlins
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well im waiting on repsonce for them, but might as well ask here as well, what would be a good oil-less version of a T70 with a more conservitive .84 or .91 ar? Im trying to do a rear mount turbo and if i could get one of these oil-less turbos that would be AMAZING!
THeres so many different kinds of turbos on there website i dont even know where to start. No need for one of those race billet ones for me, but does anyone know what would an oil-less would run equal to or better then a T70?
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what specific t70 are you looking to compare to? an old school T70 Q trim would get beaten handily by a 6768 comp turbo, while a 7068, 7071 would make a solid 100whp more. remember that a TC76-TC78 turbonetics would be compareable to a 7268 comp, so you can go from there.

I would suggest a CT43- 7071 with a 1.0 AR divided housing. That should spool similar to a old T70 pretty easy, and gives you the option to add a spool valve for full boost at 2500rpm in the future.

Just an example, I have a billet CT43-6768 ball bearing on a stock 2jz with a 1.0 A/r divided housing and a spool valve. In 4th gear i can floor it from idle and have 20psi before 3000rpm and it will make an easy 600+whp with very low backpressure
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Go with the larger ar. Using a thripple ball bearing will put way ahead of the game as far as spool time.
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I was under the impression that with rear turbo settings, anything over .84 A/R will lag pretty bad.
I was looking at this one for starters. what do you guys think?

CT4 Standard Compressors TRIPLEX CERAMIC™ Ball Bearings
CT4-6768/ P# - 114677
Dynamic (Compressor Seal)
HE 68 Turbine Wheel
800 HP capable
Aluminum with water ports (Bearing housing)
T4 with 3'' V-band
T4 undivided Tangential Open w/ .81
Compressor - 4” Inlet / 2.5” outlet / AR .70
Info directly pulled from website mind you.


Other key points
• Anti-surge compressor housing
• Interchangeable with 60-1 series turbo models
• Available with internal or external waste gates
• Lightweight high efficiency 10 bladed turbine wheel
• Available with water-cooled bearing housing
• Offered with dynamic or carbon seal
• Lightweight aluminum bearing housing
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i am glad to see such a good response on here about these turbos.my comp looks awesome i hope it performs as well as it looks.
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I'm very interested in the oil less versions. I've had some people come to me to build em a remote setup. But after that last pump failure I'm reluctant to build another. Buy these oilless units change my mind.
If u do the math the oil less turbo costs less or comparable to conventional turbo with e oil pump and less headaches and chance of oil failur.
Fu(k the turbo, I'm worried about the engines bearings in case of oil pump failure.
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This thread is relevant to my interests....

I really want to see how these hold up.
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
I'm very interested in the oil less versions. I've had some people come to me to build em a remote setup. But after that last pump failure I'm reluctant to build another. Buy these oilless units change my mind.
If u do the math the oil less turbo costs less or comparable to conventional turbo with e oil pump and less headaches and chance of oil failur.
Fu(k the turbo, I'm worried about the engines bearings in case of oil pump failure.
+1 on that. I want to put together a rear turbo setup the first time right so that i dont have to hunt down oil leaks and have to worry about check valves and blowing smoke out the tailpipes and all those other horror stories i keep hearing about lol
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Interested to know if they can make them in T6 flanges.
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Would any of these happen to be compatible w/ the TD06h housings seen on the APS twin kits?
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if you send them your housing im sure they would be able to tell you if they can machine it to work, I have thought about that myself. Otherwise they cast their own housings so it wouldnt be too hard to make them new
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Originally Posted by JoshuaGrooms83
I was under the impression that with rear turbo settings, anything over .84 A/R will lag pretty bad.
I was looking at this one for starters. what do you guys think?
I believe that number is for a stock heads/cam/cube motor, not really a universal rule for ALL rear mounts.
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Originally Posted by JoshuaGrooms83
I was under the impression that with rear turbo settings, anything over .84 A/R will lag pretty bad.
I was looking at this one for starters. what do you guys think?

CT4 Standard Compressors TRIPLEX CERAMIC™ Ball Bearings
CT4-6768/ P# - 114677
Dynamic (Compressor Seal)
HE 68 Turbine Wheel
800 HP capable
Aluminum with water ports (Bearing housing)
T4 with 3'' V-band
T4 undivided Tangential Open w/ .81
Compressor - 4” Inlet / 2.5” outlet / AR .70
Info directly pulled from website mind you.


Other key points
• Anti-surge compressor housing
• Interchangeable with 60-1 series turbo models
• Available with internal or external waste gates
• Lightweight high efficiency 10 bladed turbine wheel
• Available with water-cooled bearing housing
• Offered with dynamic or carbon seal
• Lightweight aluminum bearing housing
Go with the CT34 7071. If you compared it to a T70 there really isn't any comparison. The It would spools faster and make more power than a T70.

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Very interesting. I'd like to see an 85mm oil-less unit with a 1.16A/R with a spool valve for a rear mount .


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