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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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recently purchased procharger d1 for my 98 camaro it is currently setup with ms3 and stage 2.5 5.3L heads and stock bottom end.

are these heads ok for f/i application?
what camshaft do you reccomend?
rod bolts and head studs any other suggestions?
how many pounds is safe?
what size injectors ?
is a racetronix walbro fuel pump w/hotwire kit enough?

any feedback greatly appreciated thanks
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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The heads will be alright. Id go with the EPP blower cam if you really want to do a cam swap. Id run about 8lbs on that setup and 60lb injectors will get you there. The Racetronix kit with hot wire kit will be good, but not much after that.
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The heads will be alright. Id go with the EPP blower cam if you really want to do a cam swap. Id run about 8lbs on that setup and 60lb injectors will get you there. The Racetronix kit with hot wire kit will be good, but not much after that.
Thanks, here is a link to this camshaft. http://shop.brutespeed.com/Comp-Brut...n-Camshaft.htm Bob
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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What exhaust are you running? The more free flowing the exhaust the less boost you will net. Is your motor forged? What are you power goals. These are all things to consider when going FI. I had to learn the hard way thats why I am asking.
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What exhaust are you running? The more free flowing the exhaust the less boost you will net. Is your motor forged? What are you power goals. These are all things to consider when going FI. I had to learn the hard way thats why I am asking.
i have hooker longtubes off road y pipe and magnaflow cat back, stock bottom end, i would like to see 550 not sure if this is realistic with stock bottom end
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If you're considering upgrading the rods and rod bolts, do the pistons as well. Pointless to have one without the other. Once you have those in place you can REALLY turn up the boost.
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i have hooker longtubes off road y pipe and magnaflow cat back, stock bottom end, i would like to see 550 not sure if this is realistic with stock bottom end
With 8 psi and our cam, you can see 550 rwhp with a stock bottom end. Bob
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can i run stock dampener or should i upgrade to ati unit?
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Originally Posted by 346lsi
can i run stock dampener or should i upgrade to ati unit?
If you are using an eight rib kit you need to use the ATI Performance Products 918853 balancer. If your kit is a six rib you use the factory balancer.

Here is an older copy of the ProCharger installation instructions that a customer of mine at the old shop put on the internet.
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The balancer pn# on the instructions has been superceded by the 918853. Bob
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I'd look into different heads. Your compression is pretty high right now as is for FI- especially on the stock bottom end. Get some cheap 317 or 035 heads from a 6.0L.
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
If you are using an eight rib kit you need to use the ATI Performance Products 918853 balancer. If your kit is a six rib you use the factory balancer.

Here is an older copy of the ProCharger installation instructions that a customer of mine at the old shop put on the internet.
http://www.ls1.com/ed/procharger_owners_manual.pdf
The balancer pn# on the instructions has been superceded by the 918853. Bob
Hes Correct.
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Originally Posted by ChevyChad
I'd look into different heads. Your compression is pretty high right now as is for FI- especially on the stock bottom end. Get some cheap 317 or 035 heads from a 6.0L.
i was curious about that i believe with the 5.3L heads im at 10.5:1 what would it be if i went to 317's also do you just run them stock or ported with bigger valves? thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
If you are using an eight rib kit you need to use the ATI Performance Products 918853 balancer. If your kit is a six rib you use the factory balancer.

Here is an older copy of the ProCharger installation instructions that a customer of mine at the old shop put on the internet.
http://www.ls1.com/ed/procharger_owners_manual.pdf
The balancer pn# on the instructions has been superceded by the 918853. Bob
thanks bob i noticed on installation instructions it says 99-02 whats different in the kit for a 98
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For your HP goals, ported would not be necessary. I would however use better springs for sure. I'd have to do the math to give you an exact answer, but IIRC the 71.5cc chambers of the 6.0L heads would give a stock LS1 a compression of something like 9.5 or so.
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guys thanks for all the input i just have one more issue to figure out which is my compression ratio and stock bottom end i believe my compression ratio is 10.75:1 currently with the stage 2.5 5.3L heads is this to high for 8psi? is it worth switching to 317's ? on stock lower end rather be safe than sorry thanks
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Most try to achieve a 9.5 to 10 compression ratio.
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Originally Posted by 346lsi
guys thanks for all the input i just have one more issue to figure out which is my compression ratio and stock bottom end i believe my compression ratio is 10.75:1 currently with the stage 2.5 5.3L heads is this to high for 8psi? is it worth switching to 317's ? on stock lower end rather be safe than sorry thanks
A lot of stock LS2 (10.9) engines are at 8 psi of boost with no problems at all. Bob
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