SDCE or Aster For my new setup
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SDCE or Aster For my new setup
Just ordered my Fuel System from Lonnie and now I have to order my full procharger kit!
I am going to run an F1A at 15 to 18 Lbs of boost!
I have heard good things about both set ups and there is only a 200.00 difference in price. The aster is a little more becuase of the Water Pump!
Who is running them and which one do you like the best?
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I am going to run an F1A at 15 to 18 Lbs of boost!
I have heard good things about both set ups and there is only a 200.00 difference in price. The aster is a little more becuase of the Water Pump!
Who is running them and which one do you like the best?
Thanks - Project Name is the Baddest Firehawk Ever!
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Just ordered my Fuel System from Lonnie and now I have to order my full procharger kit!
I am going to run an F1A at 15 to 18 Lbs of boost!
I have heard good things about both set ups and there is only a 200.00 difference in price. The aster is a little more becuase of the Water Pump!
Who is running them and which one do you like the best?
Thanks - Project Name is the Baddest Firehawk Ever!
I am going to run an F1A at 15 to 18 Lbs of boost!
I have heard good things about both set ups and there is only a 200.00 difference in price. The aster is a little more becuase of the Water Pump!
Who is running them and which one do you like the best?
Thanks - Project Name is the Baddest Firehawk Ever!
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If the difference in $$$ is not an issue, no doubt got with Aster's bracket... be prepared to change your water pump to the LS3 unit however! I think my biggest complaint about the SDCE setup is that cheap looking tensioner...
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Aster's setup. The tensioner is nothing less then amazing. It also uses easy to find parts so swapping out the auto tensioner or idler is easy and doesn't take an arm and a leg to find. With aster's bracket you can also run a 7.65" crank...with the SDCE you can only run a 7.25" crank pulley. No special tools, easy to find parts and the use of the larger crank pulley was enough for me. I plan on running my F1 around 18-20psi so I'm in the same boat as you!
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Brian, keep in mind that with the SDCE bracket you have to supply SDCE with the ProCharger J Bracket for them to modify it. If you don't already have the ProCharger J Bracket, this substantially raises the cost of their bracket. Bob
Brian, keep in mind that with the SDCE bracket you have to supply SDCE with the ProCharger J Bracket for them to modify it. If you don't already have the ProCharger J Bracket, this substantially raises the cost of their bracket. Bob
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I don't have the SDCE bracket yet................. I sent the J bracket out on January 24th and was told 5-7 working days. Not too happy at this point, but I'm sure I will be once I finally get it.
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Wow, you sure they didn't forget about you! Bob
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Bob, as you know in the past, I'm a very patient customer. I've sent an email about every week and a half, they don't respond (once in a while). It's winter/spring still and being as patient as can be. Sometimes, you just have to shake your head and say WTF.
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I wish you luck with it, hopefully they come through for you. Bob
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I was in the same situation. I decided to put together my own setup, which may or may not save me any money in the end, but I wanted to do it right the first time and learn from other's mistakes.
I knew I didn't want the ATI supplied way of tensioning the belt, so that left me with the same decision as you, SDCE or ASTER. With the SDCE, I would have had to buy a J-bracket, then send it to them to be modified. I didn't like the fact that you had to use a special tool to get the belt on/off either.
With Aster's bracket, I liked the overall design better, and the fact that you have to use the LS2 water pump isn't a bad thing either. It flows better than the ls1 pump, and considering you're adding 100+ rwhp, the extra cooling is a good thing in my mind. Additionally, my water pump is starting to sound not quite so healthy and it was a no brainer for me.
I'm still waiting on mine, but Bob's been very transparent with the delay. Aster found an issue with one of the measurements, and is making the adjustments to avoid any potential issues with customers.
I don't plan to finalize my install till the fall, so right now I'm just in the mock-up / parts acquisition stage, so delays are perfectly fine, especially when I'm updated as to timelines.
I knew I didn't want the ATI supplied way of tensioning the belt, so that left me with the same decision as you, SDCE or ASTER. With the SDCE, I would have had to buy a J-bracket, then send it to them to be modified. I didn't like the fact that you had to use a special tool to get the belt on/off either.
With Aster's bracket, I liked the overall design better, and the fact that you have to use the LS2 water pump isn't a bad thing either. It flows better than the ls1 pump, and considering you're adding 100+ rwhp, the extra cooling is a good thing in my mind. Additionally, my water pump is starting to sound not quite so healthy and it was a no brainer for me.
I'm still waiting on mine, but Bob's been very transparent with the delay. Aster found an issue with one of the measurements, and is making the adjustments to avoid any potential issues with customers.
I don't plan to finalize my install till the fall, so right now I'm just in the mock-up / parts acquisition stage, so delays are perfectly fine, especially when I'm updated as to timelines.
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I was in the same situation. I decided to put together my own setup, which may or may not save me any money in the end, but I wanted to do it right the first time and learn from other's mistakes.
I knew I didn't want the ATI supplied way of tensioning the belt, so that left me with the same decision as you, SDCE or ASTER. With the SDCE, I would have had to buy a J-bracket, then send it to them to be modified. I didn't like the fact that you had to use a special tool to get the belt on/off either.
With Aster's bracket, I liked the overall design better, and the fact that you have to use the LS2 water pump isn't a bad thing either. It flows better than the ls1 pump, and considering you're adding 100+ rwhp, the extra cooling is a good thing in my mind. Additionally, my water pump is starting to sound not quite so healthy and it was a no brainer for me.
I'm still waiting on mine, but Bob's been very transparent with the delay. Aster found an issue with one of the measurements, and is making the adjustments to avoid any potential issues with customers.
I don't plan to finalize my install till the fall, so right now I'm just in the mock-up / parts acquisition stage, so delays are perfectly fine, especially when I'm updated as to timelines.
I knew I didn't want the ATI supplied way of tensioning the belt, so that left me with the same decision as you, SDCE or ASTER. With the SDCE, I would have had to buy a J-bracket, then send it to them to be modified. I didn't like the fact that you had to use a special tool to get the belt on/off either.
With Aster's bracket, I liked the overall design better, and the fact that you have to use the LS2 water pump isn't a bad thing either. It flows better than the ls1 pump, and considering you're adding 100+ rwhp, the extra cooling is a good thing in my mind. Additionally, my water pump is starting to sound not quite so healthy and it was a no brainer for me.
I'm still waiting on mine, but Bob's been very transparent with the delay. Aster found an issue with one of the measurements, and is making the adjustments to avoid any potential issues with customers.
I don't plan to finalize my install till the fall, so right now I'm just in the mock-up / parts acquisition stage, so delays are perfectly fine, especially when I'm updated as to timelines.
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I was in the same situation. I decided to put together my own setup, which may or may not save me any money in the end, but I wanted to do it right the first time and learn from other's mistakes.
I knew I didn't want the ATI supplied way of tensioning the belt, so that left me with the same decision as you, SDCE or ASTER. With the SDCE, I would have had to buy a J-bracket, then send it to them to be modified. I didn't like the fact that you had to use a special tool to get the belt on/off either.
With Aster's bracket, I liked the overall design better, and the fact that you have to use the LS2 water pump isn't a bad thing either. It flows better than the ls1 pump, and considering you're adding 100+ rwhp, the extra cooling is a good thing in my mind. Additionally, my water pump is starting to sound not quite so healthy and it was a no brainer for me.
I'm still waiting on mine, but Bob's been very transparent with the delay. Aster found an issue with one of the measurements, and is making the adjustments to avoid any potential issues with customers.
I don't plan to finalize my install till the fall, so right now I'm just in the mock-up / parts acquisition stage, so delays are perfectly fine, especially when I'm updated as to timelines.
I knew I didn't want the ATI supplied way of tensioning the belt, so that left me with the same decision as you, SDCE or ASTER. With the SDCE, I would have had to buy a J-bracket, then send it to them to be modified. I didn't like the fact that you had to use a special tool to get the belt on/off either.
With Aster's bracket, I liked the overall design better, and the fact that you have to use the LS2 water pump isn't a bad thing either. It flows better than the ls1 pump, and considering you're adding 100+ rwhp, the extra cooling is a good thing in my mind. Additionally, my water pump is starting to sound not quite so healthy and it was a no brainer for me.
I'm still waiting on mine, but Bob's been very transparent with the delay. Aster found an issue with one of the measurements, and is making the adjustments to avoid any potential issues with customers.
I don't plan to finalize my install till the fall, so right now I'm just in the mock-up / parts acquisition stage, so delays are perfectly fine, especially when I'm updated as to timelines.
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Bob and Aster would be the best ones to explain, but supposedly on one car, a spacer was off by an 1/8 of an inch and it was the first time it was ever seen.
I'm not 100% sure, so I don't want to give out incorrect information.
PM Bob or Aster and they can explain it far better than I could.
I'm not 100% sure, so I don't want to give out incorrect information.
PM Bob or Aster and they can explain it far better than I could.
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Got Both and have run both. With the LS2 water pump you can run the 7.65" pulley on the SDCE set up. The tentioners are close to the same presure as I checked unscientificly myself and will say the SDCE is a little bit stronger as far as tention, but not a ton. There is more belt wrap with Asters bracket and over all a lot nicer piece although you have to be a little closer on you belt lengths with his bracket than with the SDCE it works well haven't had any REAL issues with it although I had one of his first ones, and took me about 3-5 belts to get the bracket/ SC lighned up. Just dynoed the car before TX2K11 and it made 1035rwhp and 911rwtq on 93 octane and Meth injection @18lbs with an F!R some signs of belt slip when cold. As it warms up it seems to grip better and the boost curve shows it lol! I haven't tried the SDCE setup with this motor or pulley araingement so I don't know if it would work with the head unit I am using as I know I am at the limits of a 8 rib set up etc... If anyone reads this is my experience with Asters bracket and my opinion of the SDCE setup. And SDCE bracket takes like 3hrs to make lol! Can't beileve you've been waiting so long WHPLASH GL!
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That is good to hear! Bob
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