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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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I've seen pretty mixed opinions on this so I figured I'd just ask. I have a 97 z28 roller that ill be converting to a street/strip lsx car. I'm starting with a stock car and will be building everything myself, and I would like to build the turbo setup just once, based around a pt88. After I get everything setup and running well, the idea is to swap in a forged iron block, probably a 370 or 90. But id like to get the car built and running on a throwaway motor first and get used to it before swapping in a forged setup.

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Stripped 97, with enough interior to run our "street class"
Truck manifolds, pt88, a2a fmic
Th350/400, rmvb w/ brake, 9"
2 step, boost controller, etc
E85

Just a fun street strip car, I would like some easy 9s when everything is dialed in, and to hurt some feelings with an "lt1" car. So will it be alright on a 5.3 for a while while I dial the rest of the car? I don't want it to be a dog, but idk what to expect, this will be my first boooost build. Thanks!
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FlashLCD33
I've seen pretty mixed opinions on this so I figured I'd just ask. I have a 97 z28 roller that ill be converting to a street/strip lsx car. I'm starting with a stock car and will be building everything myself, and I would like to build the turbo setup just once, based around a pt88. After I get everything setup and running well, the idea is to swap in a forged iron block, probably a 370 or 90. But id like to get the car built and running on a throwaway motor first and get used to it before swapping in a forged setup.

Plan is:
Stripped 97, with enough interior to run our "street class"
Truck manifolds, pt88, a2a fmic
Th350/400, rmvb w/ brake, 9"
2 step, boost controller, etc
E85

Just a fun street strip car, I would like some easy 9s when everything is dialed in, and to hurt some feelings with an "lt1" car. So will it be alright on a 5.3 for a while while I dial the rest of the car? I don't want it to be a dog, but idk what to expect, this will be my first boooost build. Thanks!
PT88 is a 1500whp turbo right? 88mm inducer... That is pretty damn big for only having goals of easy 9's. Granted, easy 9's is nothing to laugh at, but you can do that with a turbo MUCH smaller.

I do not have the experience with the combo you are asking about. However, logic would suggest that that turbo on a 5.3 engine is going to be laggy and you are going to have to spin the 5.3 to a high RPM to get a usable power band. It wouldn't surprise me if that turbo didn't start making power until around 4500rpm on a 5.3. Again though, I dont have the experience with that combo.

EDIT: Anyone who has more knowledge than me PLEASE feel free to correct anything I am wrong on.
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Heads? Cam? Intake set-up? Alot of things will determine spool time.
Do you have a 2-step?
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Originally Posted by sho-me speed
Heads? Cam? Intake set-up? Alot of things will determine spool time.
Do you have a 2-step?
A 2 step isn't going to make the turbo less laggy.
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Street strip car. I say go for it.... that's far smaller then some ford guys run on 4.6s and stuff... might not be that great out of boost but its an lt1 car. It will have more power then stock.... run it man. If you have to spinn it up. Do it. Its a cheap temp motor anyway. Have fun!
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A pt88 is nowhere near a 1500hp turbo. Maybe 1200 max. You need a GT4788 or maybe even a GT55 for that. The PT88 will be a bit laggy on the 5.3L but will make killer power. 3.8L buick V6's, and supra's run them 5.3L is plenty. Spool should be around 35~4K RPM. Id go with a decent small tight LSA cam vs a LS6 or something wide. Something like the Isky 212/112 lsa will help light that thing off, and still make big power up top.
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Old May 1, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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Listen to Stock48. He knows his ****
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Originally Posted by stock48
A pt88 is nowhere near a 1500hp turbo.
Gotcha... I didn't know what a PT88 was, so I decided to research it.
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Street...PT8889-CEA/289

Apparently the PT8889 is not the turbo we are talking about in this case then?

Also, tight LSA = more valve overlap. Typically this is not desirable in a turbo app. Is this not the case with these engines?
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+1 on stock48... good info and good guy. I have picked his brain a few times.
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Originally Posted by SATAN
Gotcha... I didn't know what a PT88 was, so I decided to research it.
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Street...PT8889-CEA/289

Apparently the PT8889 is not the turbo we are talking about in this case then?

Also, tight LSA = more valve overlap. Typically this is not desirable in a turbo app. Is this not the case with these engines?
Thats what everyone says but my experiance has been the opposite. I went from a 114 down to a 112lsa and picked up power with a quicker spool. This was on a worse case high back psi combo. With a stock lq4, my 112lsa Isky cam, and Tc76 .96ar 68mm turbine wheel I ran mid 10's up there at Bandimere in a 4860lb 4x4 truck. Off the foot brake.
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Originally Posted by sho-me speed
Heads? Cam? Intake set-up? Alot of things will determine spool time.
Do you have a 2-step?
The car will have a 2step, yes. Heads will be stock, cam will probably be an LS6. I'm not against running something different by any means, but I don't want to wrap up a ton of money in to a throwaway motor. It WILL get ARP headstuds, though.

Originally Posted by SATAN
A 2 step isn't going to make the turbo less laggy.
It sure helps spool off of the line.....

Originally Posted by stock48
A pt88 is nowhere near a 1500hp turbo. Maybe 1200 max. You need a GT4788 or maybe even a GT55 for that. The PT88 will be a bit laggy on the 5.3L but will make killer power. 3.8L buick V6's, and supra's run them 5.3L is plenty. Spool should be around 35~4K RPM. Id go with a decent small tight LSA cam vs a LS6 or something wide. Something like the Isky 212/112 lsa will help light that thing off, and still make big power up top.
This is the kind of info I'm looking for, someone that has actually has some experience and isn't internet racing. Thank you.

Originally Posted by SATAN
Gotcha... I didn't know what a PT88 was, so I decided to research it.
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Street...PT8889-CEA/289
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Street...ger---PT88/283

Apparently the PT8889 is not the turbo we are talking about in this case then?

Also, tight LSA = more valve overlap. Typically this is not desirable in a turbo app. Is this not the case with these engines?
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Street...ger---PT88/283

This is the turbo in question.

When I say I want easy 9s out of the car, I want to be able to start it up, do a burnout, and run 9s, easily and consistently. I will probably eventually push it and who knows where that will go. Our DA is typically 3000+ and usually not the best prepped surface, so an easy 9 would be a decent accomplishment.

I'd be more than happen to hear from someone that has tried done this or something similar. I don't want to buy a 5.3 and a better suited 70-76mm, run it for a month, swap to a forged motor, and then have to hope the pt88 fits where I have the exhaust merged, redo the down pipe, redo the intake, redo the cold side, etc. Not only would I be buying 2 turbos, but I'd be wasting time redoing ****.

Plan for the forged motor is a 370-390ci, AFRs or TFS, undecided on intake or cam until the time comes.

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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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Just stick the 88mm on it for now, it'll go 9's EASILY as long as you got the rest of the setup decent since that car should be fairly light. For comparison my 3700lb ltd went 10.0 at 139 it's first time at the track leaving REALLY soft with a 5.3/76mm setup this weekend in Wichita which isn't the best track.
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