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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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I am interested in getting a meth kit to keep my engine safe and have a factor of safety if I run into bad fuel, and it would be nice to take advantage of the cooling as well not just the octane boost. I dont have interest right now to use it to gain more power just the added safety it gives the engine.

Can I benefit from it without having a meth specific tune done? How will it effect the performance of the car by using meth but not have it tuned for it?
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It will probly be very rich. You need to pull fuel out of your Ve to cOmpensate for what the meth is giving you. You don't have access to your tuner?
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I just didn't know if it was possible. Based on your reply its not a good idea. I will get the system and have it retuned sounds like the only option.
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I just didn't know if it was possible. Based on your reply its not a good idea. I will get the system and have it retuned sounds like the only option.
Make sure you use 100% methanol, as a 50-50 mixture with water added tends to put the flame out on boosted applications. Bob
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on a side note, will something like an intercooler sprayer like on Subaru stis on the 2004 vintage work or do anything with my twin procharger ic's
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Make sure you use 100% methanol, as a 50-50 mixture with water added tends to put the flame out on boosted applications. Bob
Just curious on how many vehicles you've seen this on? I've run 100% meth and 50/50 with good results at up to 16psi.
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OP so your plan is to use this on an N/A car for added safety???
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Make sure you use 100% methanol, as a 50-50 mixture with water added tends to put the flame out on boosted applications. Bob
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Originally Posted by 02SOMLS1WS6
I just didn't know if it was possible. Based on your reply its not a good idea. I will get the system and have it retuned sounds like the only option.
do you have a wideband? there really is about 1000 ways to skin this cat...
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Its a D1SC car so its a boosted application. I do have a wideband its an AFX.

The car just got finished at IPS, they did the tune for me. It put down really good power, more than I expected but it does have more boost than I thought it would too. 595hp/533tq at 10psi.
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ahh ok I was just goin off ur sig lol.. good numbers and boost
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by djfury05
ahh ok I was just goin off ur sig lol.. good numbers and boost
Ya I haven't changed the sig yet, I need to work on that now!
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Whever I purge my snow boost cooler, it goes rich for a minute or so and I also run it up to 3000rpm when I purge it before I make my first passes to make sure the lines are free and clear. Without re-tuning your car will run really rich.

I also run the 99% M1 Methanol from World Wide Racing Fuels (just the place I happen to get mine) and it has awesome cooling properties. I know it's not good for your skin, but it you ever happen to get some on your hand it will feel like you stuck it in a fridge. Science is cool after all I guess
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