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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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my stock ls1 turbo..just wanted to see if this is a proper setup.

the 2 openings towards the firewall both have breathers. the pas side opening by the oil fill is capped off...

sometimes i see oil on the valve cover by the pass side breather filter.
is that normal? should i have this setup differently?

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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I plan to change my setup on my Procharged car to how GMHTP did in this article. Link the two dirty sides together and add a breather vent to replace the oil cap.

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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Replace your oil cap with a big breather. that should get rid of any oil as it will spread the crank case pressure out.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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I still beleive that you want to have a vacuum source on the pcv system to pull the harmful gasses and moisture out of the valley. With just a vent, I feel you aren't adequitly doing that.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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in for this as well. i see alot of f/i guys connecting both dirty sides and using a breather on stock ls1 valley
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:17 AM
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I tapped each valve cover with a -6AN fitting, ran a hose connecting the rear fittings on each valve cover, then ran hose from each front fitting to a vented catch can. Then I put a breather oil cap on for good measure. I'll see if I can find some pics.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam86
I tapped each valve cover with a -6AN fitting, ran a hose connecting the rear fittings on each valve cover, then ran hose from each front fitting to a vented catch can. Then I put a breather oil cap on for good measure. I'll see if I can find some pics.
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Originally Posted by Adam86
I tapped each valve cover with a -6AN fitting, ran a hose connecting the rear fittings on each valve cover, then ran hose from each front fitting to a vented catch can. Then I put a breather oil cap on for good measure. I'll see if I can find some pics.
I did almost the same thing.
The drivers side valve cover already has a hole in the rear, but I drilled and tapped the passenger side cover, ran -10 lines from each one, T'd it into a single -10 line and into a vented can.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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If you are running a dual catch can setup much like the Saiko Michi using a setup much like below would you also need a breather or no? I can's seem to find much on whether or not a breather is needed with this setup. I'm pushing boost mid teens on a built bottom end ls1 single tc78 setup.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Tying both valve covers to my downpipe with an angled tip Dont have to deal with catch cans, breathers or any of that nonsense.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeDime
Tying both valve covers to my downpipe with an angled tip Dont have to deal with catch cans, breathers or any of that nonsense.
Is the exhaust serving as a vacuum source in this case? Seems like a good idea actually as long as it is post wideband.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Yep its using the Venturi for vacuum and its a few inches post WB. I have a spare boost/vac gauge so once my car is running Ill have results
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 12:36 AM
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That's a fantastic idea and I think I'll steal it!
Maybe I'll tap and drill for another large fitting in my catch can and run a line from there to my downpipe. Might not have as much vacuum as the intake but you would eliminate the problems with PCV and still be getting out a lot of vapor and gas from the crankcase.

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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam86
That's a fantastic idea and I think I'll steal it!
Maybe I'll tap and drill for another large fitting in my catch can and run a line from there to my downpipe. Might not have as much vacuum as the intake but you would eliminate the problems with PCV and still be getting out a lot of vapor and gas from the crankcase.
Not to steal his thunder, but it's not a new idea. It's been done on many drag cars for a long time. It definitely works. Several years ago my uncle was having problems with his dipstick blowing out. He added these on and it relieved his crankcase pressure and no more dipstick blowing out.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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The exhaust taps work if they are at the end of an open pipe. If you run a muffler or a long pipe after the tap, backpressure in the exhaust will push the crankcase.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by onfire
The exhaust taps work if they are at the end of an open pipe. If you run a muffler or a long pipe after the tap, backpressure in the exhaust will push the crankcase.
True, so I'd put a one-way check valve in there so that flow could only go out the exhaust and not back into the motor.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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What if you used bullet mufflers instead of a chambered muffler?
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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I haven't actually run my car with the blower on it with my setup but I put a small breather on the back of the drivers side like you have, used an oil cap with a larger breather and also ran a sealed catch can to the procharger inlet hat which should be pulling some vaccume under boost. Any oil sucked up by the vaccume line should be caught by the catch can to keep it from getting into the suction side of the procharger. I haven't run it setup like this but that's how I have it set up and the theory sounds good to me. Let me know if any of you see an issue with it. The only thing I could think of is oil getting sucked into the procharger but the catch can should do its job and keep that from happening I would think. I figured this would pull filtered air into the breathers untill the pressure overcomes the vaccume and could then excape out of the breathers if needed.
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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i thought the black rubber line at the back of the passenger side valve cover connects to the back of the driver side valve cover?
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