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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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http://www.lsxtv.com/project-grandma...-1-block-prep/
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Very cool.

How much for all that prep on that block?
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Very cool.

How much for all that prep on that block?
If you have to ask....










J/K

Can't say enough good things about the attention to detail from the shop.

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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Good read Shawn. I worked in a machine shop when I was 15 cleaning blocks and to see what has come since then is amazing. Back then a 598 was a big engine and all we had was a manual boring bar that we had to hoist onto the block sitting on the stand. A lot of people don't know the processes and can learn a lot from reading this. Good job guys.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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That's awesome
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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good to see people wanting to make big power move away from the stock blocks. Looks like a well equipped shop.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Nice article. Nice to know some of the the details of the last 2 motors you built for me I hope they realize they'll need an F1R or bigger with cog drive to make 1200hp.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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That is a fantastic article that really puts a lot of things into perspective. I've been doing a lot of reading on the O ring setups. Searching around I found that you use a ring in the head and the block. It is mentioned in the article as well. Are you not cutting receiver grooves for the rings and relying on the S type crush of the rings?

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Very cool.

How much for all that prep on that block?
I've got to ask as well.
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Excellent read. I learned on a good ole ck10
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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Of course the interviewee would think it was good! Awesome article and great info! Wish I could get my grubby little hands on some a CNC like that.... Oh the possibilities! Kudos
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Impressive!
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Great read.. helps to sway my opinion on who will be building my motor shortly
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Great article.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
That is a fantastic article that really puts a lot of things into perspective. I've been doing a lot of reading on the O ring setups. Searching around I found that you use a ring in the head and the block. It is mentioned in the article as well. Are you not cutting receiver grooves for the rings and relying on the S type crush of the rings?



I've got to ask as well.
No receiver grooves with the way they are setup now. Everything is critical, thickness, depth, diameter, location.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Very cool.

How much for all that prep on that block?
The machine work on the block is right about $4000.00
That doesn't include the price of the block.
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
Nice article. Nice to know some of the the details of the last 2 motors you built for me I hope they realize they'll need an F1R or bigger with cog drive to make 1200hp.
Adam, were trying to make 1200 at the flywheel with an F1c on that engine-and it is possible,it's a pretty extreme setup. When you see the upcoming articles on what went into the engine-you will be amazed
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
No receiver grooves with the way they are setup now. Everything is critical, thickness, depth, diameter, location.
what do you know about it?
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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Nice build going on there for James.

Core shift doesn't look too bad on that one, worse on Bank 1 than Bank 2. What did that block weigh after filling?

All that discussion about block stresses and simulating load during machining, etc. I would have expected to see VA Speed use a 6 bolt torque plate during honing. Are you not using 6 bolt heads on that one?

Looks really good, got to love $200,000 CNC machines, takes alot of the skill out of manual engine machining and the set up processes involved and leaves it up to the CNC programmer.

Curious how many customers are you finding that pay 6000-6500 for that block off this forum. Looks like a post that should be over on YB.

Nice work, look forward to the HP numbers and end result.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 05:17 AM
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That is some serious Block prep !! Looking forward to part 2 of the build !
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Nice write up! OUCH on the price, I was guessing $2500 in machining costs... but, you get what you pay for in this particular case...
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