t-bolt clamp vs regular hose clamps, and other questions
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if u saw other post im in process of piecing together my turbo kit, ive got all my piping ran from rear to front with silcone couplers and tbolt clamps, im at the part were i need the 2.5-3.5 coupler to piping to maf sensor and then 3.5-4in from maf to tb, i got a 3.5-4 coupler from work with regular hose clamps, guy thats helpin me put this together says they'll blow off as soon as i hit boost , im only gunna be running 4psi give or take, maybe 8 in the future, says thats 4 pounds a square inch so its only in a small area, its a way bigger area etc (yes i know all thats true lol) but it will completly destroy those clamps and blow couplers off etc, i can grab the piping and etc with hands and pull as hard as i can and cant get these things to separate at all, i feel it will hold np,
also something else a friend pointed out is that most radiator/coolant systems run at 16psi and use rad hoses and normal clamps np, which i feel is a good point, any one else have any insight on this or any input im open to what ever, thanks!
also something else a friend pointed out is that most radiator/coolant systems run at 16psi and use rad hoses and normal clamps np, which i feel is a good point, any one else have any insight on this or any input im open to what ever, thanks!
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At such low boost, I wouldnt be worried about it. Just use a good quality hose clamp and it will be fine.
And if there is a decent lip/bead on the solid piping, there is little chance of it ever coming off, even with a crap hose clamp and such low boost.
And if there is a decent lip/bead on the solid piping, there is little chance of it ever coming off, even with a crap hose clamp and such low boost.
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I prefer Tbolt clamps. I used the worm gear style clamp and I broke several of them trying to tighten them down to the point they wouldnt leak. Also that style of clamp will slowly chew up the coupler.
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but that being said, i snapped one of my Tbolt clamps today tighting it down and finishin the cold side, just ratcheting it tight like the rest rrtrrtrtt snap... wtf was that.... **** lol
but i think if i use a good screw hose clamp and get it tight with out it ****** up ill be fine, and i agree Tbolts are better but lol was trying to get this done today to get it out of shop and have it back so it dosnt sit a whole week doing nothing, but i did get it back and just capped cold side off and took turbo off and its doing well, no more DD my 6mpg mud truck lmao
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You cant go blaming hose clamps for inept users. If you have a strange desire to overtighten things then of course you are going to cause damage.
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Inflamitory comments aside, I can tell you from personal experience that even at lower boost levels T-bolts clamps do not "slip" off where regular hose clamps do - after I upgraded, my 'problem' coupler was no longer a problem.
Good luck!
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Regular hose clamps ( decent quality ) can work fine on low-medium boost, and in some cases high boost provided the system is put together properly.
Ive friends running well in excess of 30psi on some engines ( 2.5" pipework on 4cyl engines ) using normal hose clamps and they havent had problems.
All pipework must be spotlessly clean. All solid pipes must have a decent bead/barb/whatever, and as mentioned already, hairspray applied before fitting a hose ( to an otherwise spotlessly clean pipe ) can help stick them together.
If you are overtightening you are trying to compensate for a bad build. And by overtightening you will cause damage and in some cases can increase chances of blowing things off.
It can also be worth tying the solid pipes together via a solid linkage to prevent the pipes trying to blow apart too, which wil take strain off the hose clamps and coupler. Although Ive never used it myself.
But at only 8psi or so, you should have no problems using any style of hose clamp unless there are major flaws in the system somewhere.
Ive friends running well in excess of 30psi on some engines ( 2.5" pipework on 4cyl engines ) using normal hose clamps and they havent had problems.
All pipework must be spotlessly clean. All solid pipes must have a decent bead/barb/whatever, and as mentioned already, hairspray applied before fitting a hose ( to an otherwise spotlessly clean pipe ) can help stick them together.
If you are overtightening you are trying to compensate for a bad build. And by overtightening you will cause damage and in some cases can increase chances of blowing things off.
It can also be worth tying the solid pipes together via a solid linkage to prevent the pipes trying to blow apart too, which wil take strain off the hose clamps and coupler. Although Ive never used it myself.
But at only 8psi or so, you should have no problems using any style of hose clamp unless there are major flaws in the system somewhere.
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im not cranking down on them at all, im using a little 1/4 in drive ratchet and was just getting it snug, did 2-3 turns more like i did the rest and this one just happen to pop, was just sayin that as a this is my exp with using everything were disscussing.a
anyway yeah i feel now the systems pretty tight and ready to go, im waiting on my piping to maf sensor coupler and to run my oil lines and will see how it goes, and being as found out one of are local speed shops carries T bolt clamps im probably going to replace the couple of screw ones i used once i got everthing ready, might go back and do hair spray trick too if i have any problems, never heard of it before but sounds cool lol, thanks guys
anyway yeah i feel now the systems pretty tight and ready to go, im waiting on my piping to maf sensor coupler and to run my oil lines and will see how it goes, and being as found out one of are local speed shops carries T bolt clamps im probably going to replace the couple of screw ones i used once i got everthing ready, might go back and do hair spray trick too if i have any problems, never heard of it before but sounds cool lol, thanks guys
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You say that but how much is it worth in the end?
Ive had 3 failures from about 50 cheap $2 T-bolts. At that rate, Id wager it into the overall cost and just buy a few spares when ordering
$8-10 on good clamps adds up quickly and Im sure those arent 100% failure proof either
Ive had 3 failures from about 50 cheap $2 T-bolts. At that rate, Id wager it into the overall cost and just buy a few spares when ordering
$8-10 on good clamps adds up quickly and Im sure those arent 100% failure proof either