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Old 09-07-2011, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jasond26
What in the bottom end would cause headgaskets to push water? I would guess that maybe the deck on the heads is not true. Did they get decked after the first time he lifted the heads? I am just asking these questions out of curiousity, not to question your theory.

Yeah Tony (a.e.s ) checked the deck and the heads . All was fine .

The heads are lifting NOT blowing the gaskets . Big difference !
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Originally Posted by possessed1
Yeah theres something wrong in the motor all right Its called DETONATION !! Thats the only thing wrong with it !

And just for the record we had 20 passes on those gaskets with no problems , Until we banged it off the rev limiter .
Nice theory! I've banged mine off the limiter MANY times!!! Never leaked a drop! Next theory?
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Heads lifting at 25 lbs of boost with 17 deg of timing on a LSX block running C16 . Are you still drunk from last night?
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
Nice theory! I've banged mine off the limiter MANY times!!! Never leaked a drop! Next theory?


LOL

OK so whats wrong in the motor that will cause the heads to lift ??

I want to hear the explanation on your theory ? It doesn't make sense to me bud .

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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
Heads lifting at 25 lbs of boost with 17 deg of timing on a LSX block running C16 . Are you still drunk from last night?


NO .. That timing is just fine there ,the motor is pushing the heads off somewere down in the lower part of the tune up .

If you look at are racepak log you can see were the motor start to lug down were its tryin to get through the convertor and thats where I think this thing is gettin hurt . Not up top .

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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
On inital check pistons were hitting the heads. That was repaired. I know the install on the o rings is critical! Not sure. Why is he the only guy blowing head gaskets like crazy on a LSX six bolt set up???? We run the same fuel, timing file, A/f ratio well he's a little richer than I am. I NEVER pushed one drop of water since I put the LSX in and I'm 200 lbs heavier and have been faster than him.


You never pushed one drop off water since you DRY DECKED that motor !!!


Another big difference .

Plus you never change your plugs in that car so how do you know if you have any rust on them .. hehe
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Originally Posted by possessed1
LOL

OK so whats wrong in the motor that will cause the heads to lift ??

I want to hear the explanation on your theory ? It doesn't make sense to me bud .

What's the quench in the motor? How much is the oring out of the block, How deep is the receiver groove in the head? How much meat between the cylinders where he's blowing all the gaskets? What's the build sheet look like on the motor?

When you have people runiing 45 lbs of boost with more timing and never blowing gaskets with the same motor. Well I would say that would be a pretty good place to start looking. Mike backfires his motor like your popping pop corn, and that's with nitrous! How many head gaskets has he gone through? See the pattern?
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Originally Posted by possessed1
You never pushed one drop off water since you DRY DECKED that motor !!!


Another big difference .

Plus you never change your plugs in that car so how do you know if you have any rust on them .. hehe
Last yr 186 mph 3525 lbs standard mls gaskets no dry deck? Never a drop. Ran it all year.

Last yr Anthony running 8.3's standard mls gaskets same heads same bolck blew seven cylinders? Same pattern.
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Mike backfires his motor like your popping pop corn, and that's with nitrous! How many head gaskets has he gone through? See the pattern?

LMFAO ... Yeah your right about mikes **** but he is on MLS gaskets and when his **** pops like that I have to weld up his heads every time he blows a gasket , Mls head gaskets do not give out like copper ones do . When the MLS go you better be prepared to weld up alot of **** . Mike just got done putting a new sleeve in his block because it burned the block and heads so deep .
You cant com pair apples to oranges .
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
Last yr 186 mph 3525 lbs standard mls gaskets no dry deck? Never a drop. Ran it all year.

Last yr Anthony running 8.3's standard mls gaskets same heads same bolck blew seven cylinders? Same pattern.

Yeah but you make like 5 passes a year with your car man Lol




Jk man , you know i love ya andy .
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Should be a fun caravan tomorrow any of you guys have two way radios so we can bust ***** for 7 hours?
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Should be a fun caravan tomorrow any of you guys have two way radios so we can bust ***** for 7 hours?
LOL . maybe ...

He loves it ..... Plus i m only kidding around when I bust him up .
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Originally Posted by possessed1
Yeah but you make like 5 passes a year with your car man Lol




Jk man , you know i love ya andy .
I just want you guys too be looking in the right direction. I've been through this LS stuff a little longer than you guys with boost and head gasket issues. This board has a ton of info on it, I've been reading it for years. Your just a little stubborn, but that's ok. I told you so's are fun!
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Should be a fun caravan tomorrow any of you guys have two way radios so we can bust ***** for 7 hours?
No, I'm going to let those guys work it out with themselves for 7 hrs. (in left field) lol
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I have a 2 way radio. But im not gonna let that happen.
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Everyone Just needs to relax. We got some stuff were gonna try our and see what Happens. Hey Jon (PSJ) can we let Neil and Andy room together, and then when fraser gets there friday we'll throw him in there room too!!
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No I'm done . Apparently someone can throw stones but cant take it when they get thrown back ... I dont no why your takein it so personal buddy . I was only kidding around .
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You guys Please leave it alone. Lets not argue while we are down there. Lets just go have some fun and watch Neil do Headgaskets by himself after the 3rd pass, cause he left me to do them alone sunday night!!!!!!!! J/K SOOOOOOO EXCITED
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[QUOTE=408ant;15361571]Everyone Just needs to relax. We got some stuff were gonna try our and see what Happens. Hey Jon (PSJ) can we let Neil and Andy room together, and then when fraser gets there friday we'll throw him in there room too!![/QUOT

Hell I may just try some sneaky **** if you do that lol ....

P.s tell Andy I still love him . He won't talk to me no more now.
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Originally Posted by 408ant
You guys Please leave it alone. Lets not argue while we are down there. Lets just go have some fun and watch Neil do Headgaskets by himself after the 3rd pass, cause he left me to do them alone sunday night!!!!!!!! J/K SOOOOOOO EXCITED
Lmao noooooooooooo. Dam you got me dead to rights there ..


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