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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Most of the people with a ProCharger at 8 psi on a six speed 4th gen f body can drive down the road at 40 mph in 3rd gear and instantly light up the tires. These cars really can't handle anymore bottom end power than what a ProCharger produces. Bob
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Most of the people with a ProCharger at 8 psi on a six speed 4th gen f body can drive down the road at 40 mph in 3rd gear and instantly light up the tires. These cars really can't handle anymore bottom end power than what a ProCharger produces. Bob
Bam!!! Sounds like the 03 cobra I had... Hey Bob, what RPM does said wheel spin start happening at with that combo??? Im assuming factory 3.42 gears still???
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^^^ Further example of topic is My old car, pullied 03 cobra, ran 12.54 @ 117 on regular street tires at Memphis Motorsports park last summer with a decent(1.9???) 60ft and breaking tires loose because of torque it couldnt handle without Dr's. This year my 99 camaro with mods in sig ran 12.08 @ 117 with same kind of street tires, same 1.95 60ft, and same track. How much worse do you think these two would do vs each other on the street from a dig where traction is going to be even less? Point and case= roots blowers are fun on the street but they arent the best setup for going fast and winning races without atleast running Dr's that most dd cars cant do safely...
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Granted, a turbo hits max boost sooner than a centri blower, but instant boost isn't faster than a centri blower unless you are running a drag suspension with some drag tires on the street.
Boost by gear ftw
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I am not counting out the procharger at all. From some stuff I'm reading on maggie kits not being complete and actually seing a guy from brute speed actually chiming in on the subject makes me want to go procharger more. Problem is I really don't need more than 100-130 hp gains. And the cheaper the kit the better. And I like that with the maggie it would replace my fast and I could make $600 selling my fast. I'm still torn lol
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I am not counting out the procharger at all. From some stuff I'm reading on maggie kits not being complete and actually seing a guy from brute speed actually chiming in on the subject makes me want to go procharger more. Problem is I really don't need more than 100-130 hp gains. And the cheaper the kit the better. And I like that with the maggie it would replace my fast and I could make $600 selling my fast. I'm still torn lol
http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-1GJ21...1GJ213-SCI.htm
I can do the complete P-1SC-1 system for less than that Maggie and the price includes shipping, plus if you buy it before Dec 31, ProCharger has a really nice $200.00 rebate going on.
http://www.procharger.com/rebate/201...bate_guide.pdf
Look at page 23 & 24.

Call me at 260 672-2076 for lower ProCharger pricing than what I can put into print. Bob
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Originally Posted by JRENIGAR
Bam!!! Sounds like the 03 cobra I had... Hey Bob, what RPM does said wheel spin start happening at with that combo??? Im assuming factory 3.42 gears still???
At 8 psi the boost will start coming in around 2500 rpm. 3.42 gears will do it. Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-1GJ21...1GJ213-SCI.htm
I can do the complete P-1SC-1 system for less than that Maggie and the price includes shipping, plus if you buy it before Dec 31, ProCharger has a really nice $200.00 rebate going on.
http://www.procharger.com/rebate/201...bate_guide.pdf
Look at page 23 & 24.

Call me at 260 672-2076 for lower ProCharger pricing than what I can put into print. Bob
Wow so you can get me a complete kit with nothing else needed for install for under 6k shipped? That's with new injectors and fuel pump?
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Wow so you can get me a complete kit with nothing else needed for install for under 6k shipped? That's with new injectors and fuel pump?
Give me a call. Thanks. Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Give me a call. Thanks. Bob
I'll call you up tommarow if that's ok. Thanks!
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I'll call you up tommarow if that's ok. Thanks!
Not a problem. Thanks. Bob
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Another vote for Bob@BruteSpeed and going with a Procharger.

Instant torque is fun to show off how quickly you can roast the tires, but not good for much else.

The beauty in going Procharged is your ability to grow into more power if you wish. Honestly, I recommend looking into getting a D1S-C from the start. You can pulley it up so the boost stays lower, but then it gives you the ability to make more power down the road if you desire. Also, the resale value on D1's is quite good.

Just something to think about. Everyone changes setups from time to time, and it's nice to know that it keeps it's value over time if you do ever decide to go a different route or de-mod.
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D1SC! from Bob at a minimum. you WILL want more!
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Alchemist, you make a lot of good points in here. I think a D1 is a better value overall. You also dont have to cut up the cowl or space the K-member. Instant boost does sound cool but what good is it if you cant get any traction.
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The procharger will instant boost as well, but it's only 2-3lbs of boost as soon as you close the bypass valve, and trust me, that 2-3lbs of boost in 2-3 gears is enough to scare the crap out of you.

I have 3.73s right now, and I'm considering going back to 3.42s to help a little in 2nd gear. Hopefully with that and some 305/35/18s I'll be able to use 2nd gear again a little bit.
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
I am not counting out the procharger at all. From some stuff I'm reading on maggie kits not being complete and actually seing a guy from brute speed actually chiming in on the subject makes me want to go procharger more. Problem is I really don't need more than 100-130 hp gains. And the cheaper the kit the better. And I like that with the maggie it would replace my fast and I could make $600 selling my fast. I'm still torn lol
You could still sell your fast as you'll make more than 130hp with a stocker anyways
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You could still sell your fast as you'll make more than 130hp with a stocker anyways
That's true also.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Another vote for Bob@BruteSpeed and going with a Procharger.

Instant torque is fun to show off how quickly you can roast the tires, but not good for much else.

The beauty in going Procharged is your ability to grow into more power if you wish. Honestly, I recommend looking into getting a D1S-C from the start. You can pulley it up so the boost stays lower, but then it gives you the ability to make more power down the road if you desire. Also, the resale value on D1's is quite good.

Just something to think about. Everyone changes setups from time to time, and it's nice to know that it keeps it's value over time if you do ever decide to go a different route or de-mod.

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D1SC! from Bob at a minimum. you WILL want more!

Thanks! Bob
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