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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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I'm trying to decide if I want to spend the money to have my stock LS2 manifold ported or not. I am using stock casting 317 heads, but have some bowl blending work, new valves and a comp. valve job that will help flow so and I would like to think the ported manifold would help a good bit.

Say a "radically" ported LS2 manifold picks up 15-20rwhp in a NA application, how much (estimated) can be picked up in a boosted application with the same manifold?

Anyone ever done this with some results?
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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IMHO I would not do it since it could weaken the manifold...add 1 psi of boost and it will cover the port job. Clean up any rough edges and boost it.
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IMHO I would not do it since it could weaken the manifold...add 1 psi of boost and it will cover the port job. Clean up any rough edges and boost it.
The company states that removing the posts does not weaken it, and that they are only there to align the pieces during GM's sealing/mating process.

I knew the argument about adding a psi of boost would come up. The thing with the LS2 manifold is that there are tons of rough edges and it flows terribly. I guess the goal is to have as much power with the least amount of boost because I do have stock casting heads and want to keep them down. I also don't want to have to run 18+ psi to achieve my goals because of the APS turbos.

It sounds like I'm talking myself into it....
I guess I just wanted to know what kind of gains could be expected if it makes 15-20rw on NA setups.

Thanks for the input, BTW.
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LS2 intake is junk. Don't put one penny into it.
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Originally Posted by 02blackbeauty19
The company states that removing the posts does not weaken it, and that they are only there to align the pieces during GM's sealing/mating process.

I knew the argument about adding a psi of boost would come up. The thing with the LS2 manifold is that there are tons of rough edges and it flows terribly. I guess the goal is to have as much power with the least amount of boost because I do have stock casting heads and want to keep them down. I also don't want to have to run 18+ psi to achieve my goals because of the APS turbos.

It sounds like I'm talking myself into it....
I guess I just wanted to know what kind of gains could be expected if it makes 15-20rw on NA setups.

Thanks for the input, BTW.
Have they pressure tested a manifold to 20psi after porting it or do they just "think" is does not weaken it.

Nothing wrong with efficiency goals. "In theory" anything that you can do to create more na power wil equate to more power under boost at the same or lower psi.......

I just have not been impressed with gains/ no gains with stock style intake manifold changes with boost. Some see gains....I have not.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
LS2 intake is junk. Don't put one penny into it.
Well, yes. I knew that LOL
When they are ported really well, they flow better than the beloved LS6, yes?

Problem is, its either port it or use it stock. I used in it my previous LS6 combo with stock heads and the stock APS turbos and made ~750rwhp.
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Have they pressure tested a manifold to 20psi after porting it or do they just "think" is does not weaken it.

Nothing wrong with efficiency goals. "In theory" anything that you can do to create more na power wil equate to more power under boost at the same or lower psi.......

I just have not been impressed with gains/ no gains with stock style intake manifold changes with boost. Some see gains....I have not.
Not to my knowledge. That is just something I read. It can be ported without removing the posts, which may be a safer bet.
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Well, yes. I knew that LOL
When they are ported really well, they flow better than the beloved LS6, yes?

Problem is, its either port it or use it stock. I used in it my previous LS6 combo with stock heads and the stock APS turbos and made ~750rwhp.
LS2 intake is a multilayer and the layers separate under boost (no more smooth edges). LS6 is far superior in a boosted application.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
LS2 intake is a multilayer and the layers separate under boost (no more smooth edges). LS6 is far superior in a boosted application.
My LS2 in sits factory state has seen 20psi.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
LS2 intake is a multilayer and the layers separate under boost (no more smooth edges). LS6 is far superior in a boosted application.
can't the layers be glued like the FAST? I to am looking into a ported LS2 myself because they cost as much as an LS6 an out perform from what I've read
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FWIW, I know a couple C5 guys with ported LS2 manifolds that were over 900rw and 1000rw without issues. This is with around 19-20ish psi. However, note that they DID NOT have the center posts removed.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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My stock ls2 intake has seen a 22psi of boost with no issues,
On the fast intakes, I have a buddy that had a 92 92 set up with boost and it leaked very badly between the two pieces, 3psi of boost was lost through the leak. He went back to the ls6 intake.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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My stock ls2 intake has seen a 22psi of boost with no issues,
On the fast intakes, I have a buddy that had a 92 92 set up with boost and it leaked very badly between the two pieces, 3psi of boost was lost through the leak. He went back to the ls6 intake.
Is yours ported in the runners or the plentum?
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IT_SS
can't the layers be glued like the FAST? I to am looking into a ported LS2 myself because they cost as much as an LS6 an out perform from what I've read
There are 7 and 8 sec runners with totally stock LS6 intakes and throttle bodies.

So what out performs what ?
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
There are 7 and 8 sec runners with totally stock LS6 intakes and throttle bodies.

So what out performs what ?
From what I understand:

LS1 is about equal to the LS2
Ported LS2 slightly > stock LS6
Not much can be gained by porting an LS6
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Why **** about ? just use the 100% tried and tested LS6.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Why **** about ? just use the 100% tried and tested LS6.
There wasn't ever a question of "Which manifold is recommended".

I dont want to deal with the hassle of switching. My TB, fuel rails, injectors, and special APS coupler are all made for the LS2/90mm manifold.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Then just stick with the LS2 as is. Why risk weakening it for no real gain ?

90mm is also a huge TB
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Why **** about ? just use the 100% tried and tested LS6.
From what Ive seen they cost the came. Right now I have no intake and no tb. Knowing that the ported LS2 out flows a stock LS6 for the same price, you get the added benefit of having to use a 90mm TB. Thats just my logic anyway
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Then just stick with the LS2 as is. Why risk weakening it for no real gain ?

90mm is also a huge TB
That's what I'm leaning towards and the real reason for the thread was checking to see what kind of gains are possible.
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