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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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tinkerd on here has a done, M6 4788, and I was impressed with it.

408 iron and 317s, pump gas, no meth, 13* IIRC he made 800/800 on 14/15 psi-

race gas and 20 psi, same timing, made 900.

If he adds timing and a bit more boost, itll make 1000 no problem.

Do a search, and it should give you a good idea.

It doesnt seem to light until 3800-4200, so keep that in mind. Its like a smaller 67mm on a supra, takes a bit to get lit, then its full steam.

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Yeah, I think that car has more to it too.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis
tinkerd on here has a done, M6 4788, and I was impressed with it.

408 iron and 317s, pump gas, no meth, 13* IIRC he made 800/800 on 14/15 psi-

race gas and 20 psi, same timing, made 900.

If he adds timing and a bit more boost, itll make 1000 no problem.

Do a search, and it should give you a good idea.

It doesnt seem to light until 3800-4200, so keep that in mind. Its like a smaller 67mm on a supra, takes a bit to get lit, then its full steam.

Louis
Do you know what AR he's running?
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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I talked to him and he says he has a .96 a/r with no problems so far


That's where I'm lost on what a/r to get!
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by konceptracin
I talked to him and he says he has a .96 a/r with no problems so far


That's where I'm lost on what a/r to get!
PM Josh@KY-Turbo and ask him. I don't want to tell you wrong. Precision told me but I cant remember what they said.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Yah I did, Precision told me 1.08

For some reason I think I should go bigger and then tinkerd told me he has a .96


So I have no clue I'm flip a coin and see what happens

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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by konceptracin
Yah I did, Precision told me 1.08

For some reason I think I should go bigger and then tinkerd told me he has a .96


So I have no clue I'm flip a coin and see what happens
I would go with the 1.08 if that is what Precision told you. You have to understand my motor has more done to it. With AFR 225 heads. So you're not compare apples to apples. I am thinking the larger the A/R the more lag you will get. So 1.08 is what I would do. If you are going to play on the street. With what you have, that is what I would do. Now if you comment to track only I would say go bigger and get a trans brake and 2 step. To aid in laughing it.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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What is the specs on your cam? What's the CR: of the motor?
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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I have a 434 cu in with a 91.5 and on a soft tune it's gone 8.58 @ 165 on a bad 60 ft

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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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What are your cam specs?

Personally I would go with a gt5088 with that motor, being an auto and being built to race.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby
I have a 438 cu in with a 91.5 and on a soft tune it's gone 8.58 @ 165 on a bad 60 ft
Are you using the gt4788? What A/R is yours? What computer are you using? It is my understanding that the bigger you go with the A/R the more lag you will see. If it is to much for what you have. Being that yours is a 434CI you wouldn't have to much lag at all. But as I said previously, I was told this stuff a long time ago so my input might be wrong. I think I am right about that tho. It's hard to compare with konceptracin setup. A 434Ci VS a 408CI That's a bit more motor than a 408CI. I would like to hear more about your setup. PM me with the 411 on it.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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What are your cam specs?

Personally I would go with a gt5088 with that motor, being an auto and being built to race.
My point that I trying to get at is this. If the turbo or A/R is to big and he has problems getting into boost. It just won't be no fun. If he is doing a track only car heck yes go to a gt55.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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turbine housing is easily changed, if you dont like it.

.96- Tight A/R turbine housing, in relation to singles. Will spool quickly, but top end power will suffer.

1.08, 30-40 hp difference, with little laggier boost ramp, carries top end a little further.

1.36 Noticeable difference in both spool and power production at high RPM. turbine flows much better than .96, however, due to this, we lose the ability to light it at low rpm.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis
turbine housing is easily changed, if you dont like it.

.96- Tight A/R turbine housing, in relation to singles. Will spool quickly, but top end power will suffer.

1.08, 30-40 hp difference, with little laggier boost ramp, carries top end a little further.

1.36 Noticeable difference in both spool and power production at high RPM. turbine flows much better than .96, however, due to this, we lose the ability to light it at low rpm.

Yeah the housing can be changed, that's the good part!
I'm thinking about going in-between the .96 and the 1.36 and see what happens!
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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hi mate i,m running a 408ci iron block setup with a bw s400 with the 1.32 ar rear and reckon its spot on comes on around 3000rpm and just pulls like a train !!! as you said if its mainly for the track !!!! 1.36 ar !!!! cheers
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ittwgn
hi mate i,m running a 408ci iron block setup with a bw s400 with the 1.32 ar rear and reckon its spot on comes on around 3000rpm and just pulls like a train !!! as you said if its mainly for the track !!!! 1.36 ar !!!! cheers
What heads ?
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by konceptracin
What heads ?
totally stock 241s, isky valve springs, arp head bolts!!!! no problems over 10000km!!!! cheers
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Nice, thanks for your input!!!
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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A/r is only one factor. Turbine size is another. The bw 96mm 1.32 with a 88 compressor won't spool the same as a 1.36 housing on a gt4788. Another thing people talk about on the 4788 is the back pressure and that the turbine wheel is too small to suport the compressor
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Originally Posted by bad6as
A/r is only one factor. Turbine size is another. The bw 96mm 1.32 with a 88 compressor won't spool the same as a 1.36 housing on a gt4788. Another thing people talk about on the 4788 is the back pressure and that the turbine wheel is too small to suport the compressor
Which would lead to not enough torque to drive the compressor, so its two fold, which I can see. Higher back pressure, and slower spool because there isnt enough turbine to drive the wheel.
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800 on 15 lbs and 900 on 20lbs that turbine is done. 5 psi boost for 100 wheel. The 408 is too much motor for a .96 ar 92mm turbine of the gt4788 to get its full potential.
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