Blown lq4 how much can the block handle
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Blown lq4 how much can the block handle
Lq4 block 427 CI Callie's dragon slayer crank,Oliver I beam rods,and wiesco pistons how with a F1R at about 20 pounds of boost goal is 1100 hp I kno these blocks can handle power just want to make sure it can handle this without having to go to a Lsx any help would be great
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Well that was the plan got a quote for the short block on to go 440 and from lme and it was 8500 wanted to be less than that on the short block so I'm trying to go budget On the block and all out on the rotating assembly
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I don't think the block will be an issue. The heads will lift way before you hurt an iron block but I would get the mains pinned and go 1/2 head stud as preventative measures against some other troublesome areas
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If you go anything more than a 408 you won't have a good enough compression height on your piston to run that much boost. They will melt like a foam cup on fire.
If I were you, I would look into an AES 390 shortblock using your block. You will get the best bang for your buck with that setup. It will have a good stroke and a nice compression height on the pistons. I think there is one guy here already making over 1100 rwhp with one.
If I were you, I would look into an AES 390 shortblock using your block. You will get the best bang for your buck with that setup. It will have a good stroke and a nice compression height on the pistons. I think there is one guy here already making over 1100 rwhp with one.
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Lq4 block 427 CI Callie's dragon slayer crank,Oliver I beam rods,and wiesco pistons how with a F1R at about 20 pounds of boost goal is 1100 hp I kno these blocks can handle power just want to make sure it can handle this without having to go to a Lsx any help would be great
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390ci would be good, but i'm partial here
We build 427 LQ9 blocks too, that block with that power, thinner cylinder walls, thinner stroker pistons, will wear the pistons quicker and eat itself up in oil consumption.
427 LQ9 is best left to a weekend car, N/A, small nitrous shot.
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Just my 2 cents, but at 20PSI your gonna be close to or are going to lift the heads on a 4 bolt configuration. Save your money and get an ERL or LSX 6 bolt block. In the grand scheme of 1100 HP the cost of the block isnt that signifigant. So I would say either lower your goal to a lower HP for reliability or risk pushing it to the edge where sooner rather than later you will find the limit.
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With a copper o-ring set-up and the right head, with good internal support so it doesn't move around on the deck will support 1600hp if the maintenance is done right and head gaskets kept up with.
Ask Fireball.
Surface area is the problem on a small block and big boost. Smaller bore helps, but this is why a big block per say has an advantage for example.
Ask Fireball.
Surface area is the problem on a small block and big boost. Smaller bore helps, but this is why a big block per say has an advantage for example.
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Just my 2 cents, but at 20PSI your gonna be close to or are going to lift the heads on a 4 bolt configuration. Save your money and get an ERL or LSX 6 bolt block. In the grand scheme of 1100 HP the cost of the block isnt that signifigant. So I would say either lower your goal to a lower HP for reliability or risk pushing it to the edge where sooner rather than later you will find the limit.
With a copper o-ring set-up and the right head, with good internal support so it doesn't move around on the deck will support 1600hp if the maintenance is done right and head gaskets kept up with.
Ask Fireball.
Surface area is the problem on a small block and big boost. Smaller bore helps, but this is why a big block per say has an advantage for example.
Ask Fireball.
Surface area is the problem on a small block and big boost. Smaller bore helps, but this is why a big block per say has an advantage for example.
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As far as the precautions that's I need to take to prevent major problems on this block do you have any advice I need to take in so this block holds up and the heads do not begin to lift
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For an F1R I would build a stock stroke 370 or go with the 390. Use a good forged crank and have the main caps pinned to keep them from wanting to walk around. Having the block and heads o-ringed and using 1/2" head studs will keep the heads from lifting and pushing water. All this is good to a point, but will cost you close to the same as building a LSX which already has doweled mains and the obvious 6 bolts per cylinder......
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have the main caps pinned to keep them from wanting to walk around. Having the block and heads o-ringed and using 1/2" head studs will keep the heads from lifting and pushing water. All this is good to a point, but will cost you close to the same as building a LSX which already has doweled mains and the obvious 6 bolts per cylinder......