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What crankshaft...22psi....single 94mm....iron 408ci...????

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:25 PM
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http://www.streetfire.net/video/fast...rld_203644.htm
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ohhhhh that record. lol sorry had a brain fart. i didnt know that was a 6.0 block but yea forgot about that record once andreas beat it
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I'm like 90% sure it was a 6.0. I will ask Kurt.
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i cant believe that record stood for so long
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@ all the misinformation in this thread

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Everything I said was opinion and what I felt was best. Except for the above thing.

6.86 at 206.
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I wouldn't put a good rotating assembly in an Oem block. 6 bolt block and heads to stay together reliabily at 1100+ personally I wouldn't want to lift a head or kick a rod out at 180mph on the street.
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Originally Posted by westtexasbuff
@ all the misinformation in this thread

well could you explain on what is wrong information? im curious on your thoughts
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Originally Posted by three83'camaro
Are you planing on re-sleaving the block? stock iron 6.0 i dont imagine will like 1200 for to long... but i think dragon slayer crank, oliver billet rods and diamond pistons would be sufficent for your goals.
Its an iron block, no sleeves.

Although....Steve D. at RED did say the ultimate block is a sleeved iron block.....but no, I'm not sleeving the iron block. 4.030" bore.

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Originally Posted by SKULL
and you by far! do NOT need a 94mm turbo to make 1200whp. that turbo could support almost 2000. a perfect matched 80-85 will do the same and spool up faster
Yea, my builder said to just use an 88mm.........

I"m open to whatever will make the goal......88mm is fine with me. Fast spool would be great.

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That turbo is still a little big and a mid frame 88 could support 1600 wheel turned up. Call forced inductions and ky turbo for help deciding a turbo that's perfectly matched. And trust me the turbo needs to be the most researched thing you look into after the motor. My friend is on his 3rd turbo because he just looked at other people and see how fast they had been with their turbos and just said that'll work. Well it didn't lol
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Originally Posted by TheLS1Lover
The fastest LS car in the world (well 2nd fastest now) was a stock sleeve 6.0.. It had some stuff done but stock sleeves.
Confused by this statement?
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Originally Posted by SKULL
That turbo is still a little big and a mid frame 88 could support 1600 wheel turned up. Call forced inductions and ky turbo for help deciding a turbo that's perfectly matched. And trust me the turbo needs to be the most researched thing you look into after the motor. My friend is on his 3rd turbo because he just looked at other people and see how fast they had been with their turbos and just said that'll work. Well it didn't lol
I don't think your going to find a mid frame 88 that supports 1600 wheel, that more like a large frame X275 88 turbo territory.
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will lift 4 bolt heads before you exceed the stock crankshafts ability, spend money in the right place or you will spend it twice.
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
will lift 4 bolt heads before you exceed the stock crankshafts ability, spend money in the right place or you will spend it twice.
MM......what a coincidence......lol

The sayings are as good as the knowledge around here........lol

I swear....my builder told me the same thing TODAY.

Him and my fabricator are talking me into a stock crank, GOOD rods and pistons......370ci iron block.

Just deal with 800-900 RWHP and less boost and be reliable. Then build a badass LSX 6-bolt iron block later this year with a 94mm and go nuts.......

Thats probably what I'll do.......we'll see........

Thanks everyone for all the input so far though......

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BUT......real quick....if the stock crank will hold up to 1,000 RWHP.......then will any cheap forged crank necessarily be better and stronger, just because its forged?

Like this cheap one. They said they have a car with 1276 RWHP running pass after pass with it. Turbo application.
I can buy it for $527.00. My builder will balance it.......its a 4.1" stroke though...418ci.....FAST SPOOL.....would that be ok at the 800 RWHP level. They are looking to see if they have a 4" crank in stock. Comes with ARP 2000 cap screws.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230805461058...058%26_rdc%3D1

OR...should I stick to a stock crank...370ci?

Thanks......


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Originally Posted by LS6427
Its an iron block, no sleeves.

Although....Steve D. at RED did say the ultimate block is a sleeved iron block.....but no, I'm not sleeving the iron block. 4.030" bore.

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HA yea your right :facepalm: i knew that i guess i spoke before thinking it through.. you can add sleeves but people dont normally do it cause for the price adding sleeves you can just buy a LSx block... Dont listen to me i know nothing.

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Originally Posted by 03supercobra
I don't think your going to find a mid frame 88 that supports 1600 wheel, that more like a large frame X275 88 turbo territory.
yea. i was a little high but if it is a stick car it could be close if you were going by how far you could take the turbo but i know threw an auto car a mid frame 88 should support around 1400-1500 fwhp
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Here's what I would seriously consider
347 or 370
Have Forced Induction spec you a turbo like a 83mm-91mm ( a custom 83 is 1000rwhp capable)
high dollar rods like ultra H beams or similiar, Howards,etc
CP or Diamond turbo pistons
stock crank
1/2" head studs & thick deck heads

the rods might be considered overkill but I believe the price difference makes it worth it to just spend the money on a higher end rod.
You'll have a combination good for a safe 900-1000rwhp or more, I'm a believer in 1/2" head studs & thick deck heads, I've seen some serious abuse out of Kurt Urban motors that had 1/2" head studs & thick deck heads.
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Originally Posted by 03supercobra
Confused by this statement?
Yeah sorry about that. I could say it was late, but it wasn't. I just wasn't thinking.

Originally Posted by 03supercobra
I don't think your going to find a mid frame 88 that supports 1600 wheel, that more like a large frame X275 88 turbo territory.
Definitely not, the X275 is only rated at 1600chp. I have read about them making 1400rwhp though, on pure X275 racecars though. I would run the 94mm on a build like this.

Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
will lift 4 bolt heads before you exceed the stock crankshafts ability, spend money in the right place or you will spend it twice.
Yep. I was under the assumption that he wanted a stroker. But yeah Stock Crank, Good Rods, and Good Pistons.
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Originally Posted by TheLS1Lover
I would run the 94mm on a build like this.
whyyyyyy run a 2k hp turbo on a street car make 1000whp? that doesnt make any sense lol


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