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Old 04-05-2004, 07:50 AM
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i set rice-etr up with a flow rate and he reported back everything is great.

stock computer, stock bottom end, stock heads, thunder cam, 58psi fuel at idle, stock injector offset.

i dont see what the big deal is?
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Any updates Jim?
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I got my motor started today...gotta get the idleright with the camand then i will put in my 60# and let you know how it does
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Sounds good, keep us updated
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Originally Posted by BIGBOS
Sounds good, keep us updated
I should have mine within the next day or two and I will throw them on and post the results.

Can someone post their injector table with these. I can figure it out on my own, but it would be nice to get a starting point and avoid reflashing 10 times.
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I talked w/Andy from A&A corvette, here is what he suggested......

He replied with:

I have these ina 346 motor with no problems.
Try these IFR numbers. 5.83 5.87 5.91 5.94 5.98 6.00 6.05 6.07
6.11 6.15 6.20 6.24 6.28 6.31 6.33
That's what I have in this car and it idles fine.
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Originally Posted by BIGBOS
I talked w/Andy from A&A corvette, here is what he suggested......

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I have these ina 346 motor with no problems.
Try these IFR numbers. 5.83 5.87 5.91 5.94 5.98 6.00 6.05 6.07
6.11 6.15 6.20 6.24 6.28 6.31 6.33
That's what I have in this car and it idles fine.
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Those #s seem a little odd to me. I have some 42s in my car now and my #s are bigger than that.
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if you guys want the flowrate for a stock static fuel pressure i'd have to work it out.. just a simple calculation

i agree i dont see how in the world those from a/a can be right, would be way off for mototron 60's unless hes running something like 40psi fuel pressure.

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I was temporarily forced to run these 60#er's at stock fuel pressure because i had not done the fuel system at that time... MM gave me the IFR # to put in, the car idled/ran fine... with no changes to the offset.
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Yeah, those flowrates posted are closer to 42's than 60's. Just to clarify, the car idles and drives good, but it has negative fuel trims and is idling at 10.5-11 air fuel.

RICE ETR- what are your fuel trims and inj PW at idle?
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Yes those are near 42's.I would figure 60's would be 8.??..
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they are i'll post up the correct numbers when i get home..

anybody using a referenced regulator that would like a flowrate pm me.
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Jim, do you think you can get these puppies to work fine in my setup?
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Well, I'm running them in a customers car open loop and everything seems ok other than running a bit fat at idle.
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Well, UPS showed up and I got them in my car tonight. Man, the bodies of these things are small compared to my 42s. . Idle was almost perfect on my first shot at it. LT and ST trims were almost 0 WB showed about 14.7 with some movement. I still have some tweaking to do, but I would say these idle pretty nice right out of the box.

I'm seeing a 1.8ms pulse width at idle once she is warmed up. I set my flow rate in the 9.2 - 10.0 range. I actually have a refrenced regulator and run about 51 psi at idle (I need to flatten out my table a bit).
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RICE ETR- what are your fuel trims and inj PW at idle?
Sorry for the delay.... when i had stock fp, i set my IFR to 9.44, now with a an adj FP reg. i put in the IFR that MM gave me (as mentioned simple calculation) which is 7.871 all the way across.
I didn't get the PW with stock fp, but now at idle it is 1.79-1.86ms with L-trims of -.8 to -2.3 at idle and cruise... and of course they always lock in at zero. I am going to leave it as these l-trims are as good as they were when i was N/A with stock injectors.
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Originally Posted by BIGBOS
Try these IFR numbers. 5.83 5.87 5.91 5.94 5.98 6.00 6.05 6.07
6.11 6.15 6.20 6.24 6.28 6.31 6.33
I had 4's and 5's in my motor with 42# injectors (GM 3800V6 38#). To make the 75# injectors work, everything was adjusted to 8 across the board. Andy recommended 9.3. I'm running 62psi with racetronix and BAP.

Note that the 8's were entered for a rough tune, it needs to be fine tuned as soon as Nick N. gets his dyno running.


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