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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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Well my brother is taking his truck to the track Saturady, and while playing around on the street we've noticed that with E85 the truck loves a lot of timing, but I'm not sure how much is safe? I've pushed as much as 18*@12#s, 16*@14#s and 14*@16#s... We wanna run more but we're not sure where the limit is? We haven't gotten any knock at all yet.. also, at what AFR are you guys makin the most power?

His truck has a '99 4.8L w/706 heads, ARP studs MLS head gaskets, Isky triple 12 cam and a 76mm front mount.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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I'd have to check my AFR on e85, but my car is tuned to about 20* of timing on e85(17.5psi) and about 15-16* on 93 octane(12.5psi). e85 is very knock resistant and my tuner said he could push more safely, but it gets to a point of diminishing returns.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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My AFR averages at about 11.7, timing is set at 22* IIRC. I wasn't getting any benefit from running more timing. When I was NA I ran 28*. I run 6.5 psi on my setup.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Throw more boost at it... I run 22lbs in my DD 87 Grand National and even in this 100+ deg heat it's happy as a clam.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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What are the plugs telling you??
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1FREEK
Well my brother is taking his truck to the track Saturady, and while playing around on the street we've noticed that with E85 the truck loves a lot of timing, but I'm not sure how much is safe? I've pushed as much as 18*@12#s, 16*@14#s and 14*@16#s... We wanna run more but we're not sure where the limit is? We haven't gotten any knock at all yet.. also, at what AFR are you guys makin the most power?

His truck has a '99 4.8L w/706 heads, ARP studs MLS head gaskets, Isky triple 12 cam and a 76mm front mount.
Your bro has a 99 E85 motor? I didnt know E85 was out that long.. Did he convert it over or something?

How does that cam work out for you?? Sound good? (got a video clip???)

what injectors are you running?? (and what is the max boost you run with them??)
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AlterEgo
Your bro has a 99 E85 motor? I didnt know E85 was out that long.. Did he convert it over or something?

How does that cam work out for you?? Sound good? (got a video clip???)

what injectors are you running?? (and what is the max boost you run with them??)
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If you tune for e85 It does not matter.... lt1 s can run on e85
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18* at 19psi with 11.5afr.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1NOVA
18* at 19psi with 11.5afr.
Sorry nova but I don't kno exactly what that means??
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ls2foryou
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If you tune for e85 It does not matter.... lt1 s can run on e85
What size injectors are you running?? And how is that cam working out for you?
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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What IAT's are you guys at ?
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Ok, are any of you guys running stock bottom ends? I guess I should have stated that in my question, I'm curious what guys are running without hurting stock bottom ends.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Just got mine tuned, and not quite done.
Stock bottom end ls1, 47xxx, ls6 cam, Kytp kit with a pt 7675, e85
We are having boost creep problems with the pw46 wastegate, so haven't pulled it to high yet. I live in San Antonio, so with the heat it made 602 rwhp, 570 tq with 12* timing, 12.5 lbs, pulled to 5800.

In a month or so, we will be adding a 50mm wastegate from josh at kytp, and extending the exhaust out the back. The plan is to bring it down to 10lbs, run 14-16*, and pull it to 6200. We think it wil be close to 650 rwhp.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Glad you brought this up. I'm running 18*@13-ish psi, stock bottom end LS1. Would like some timing advice too.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Ahhhhhh!! I get it after reading a couple of times!! "18*" 18 degrees of advanced timing!!
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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not familiar with all of the shortcut wording just yet but I am learning them quickly!
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Friend is running 30* on 20# on a stock long block 5.3 with twins. Wont grenade, he's tried lol
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Originally Posted by 1BADAZZSS
Friend is running 30* on 20# on a stock long block 5.3 with twins. Wont grenade, he's tried lol
now thats what I wanna hear!!! stock long block.. what about intake, fuel pump and injectors for those twins??? Im looking to do the same with my 4.8...
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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I believe pro flow xt, dual pumps, and 80#. Oh yea and NO INTERCOOLER!
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADAZZSS
I believe pro flow xt, dual pumps, and 80#. Oh yea and NO INTERCOOLER!
What are your iats with no intercooler? E85 is real nice ( I run it also ) but I would either run meth or intercooler or both..I think you are leaving power on the table not cooling that air down. 30 degs of timing on 20 #`s in the summer heat he is the luckest guy alive. A 5.3 is hard to break item.
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