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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Unless you're running cats
What are cats
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Any idea how rotella 15w40 does. I have ran it in basically everything. My Wrx to 8800rpm at 600awhp, both my d series and b series setups to 9500+ and around 500whp, my ls1
Last year and my 4.8 this year. If I need to switch I will but I always heard it has the most additives. I also change it every 2-3 track outings(about every 2 weeks). Might be a little excessive but it's cheap enough to do.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Good read. Thanks
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Not true. You can run zinc with no concerns of it hurting your cats. The way cats are made today, the zinc won't hurt them, plus you shouldn't be pushing that much oil out your motor anyways. Fix the blowby first.
From what I've researched, API oils have reduced zinc content because it reduces the effectiveness of the cats.

Here's a good read I found: http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti...continues.aspx
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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how often do you have to change your oil if your running these more expensive zddp oils? i would but they're expensive and have to be changed frequently
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
From what I've researched, API oils have reduced zinc content because it reduces the effectiveness of the cats.

Here's a good read I found: http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti...continues.aspx
I understand that, but if you have an engine that is performing properly, 1: cats aren't really needed. 2: you will have very little blow-by, which is where you'd see contamination from the oil hitting the cats.

So build your engine right, use a good oil with high content of ZDDP, and change your cats after 50,000 miles if you are concerned.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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What is considered a "low" and "high" level of ZDDP? I use Royal Purple HPS and it's only because of reputation, couldn't tell you the zinc or ZDDP.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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wondering if royal purple is also a good oild to be running in my vehicles. been using it since 05 with no issues. have heard in boosted cars it ends up having a problem of breaking down and causing damage.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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I wouldn't use Royal Purple to lubricate a mousetrap much less put it in my car.
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Why is it d so bad?
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Royal Purple's only purpose is to try and 'make more power' at the expense of protection for your engine. It breaks down so quickly.

Do a google search on royal purple damage or royal purple sheer properties.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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IMO, I like zinc levels to be in the 1500+ range. Redline, CAM2, Joe gibbs are all in the 2000+ range.

Thanks to the Alchemist for the knowledge in this thread!
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Royal Purple's only purpose is to try and 'make more power' at the expense of protection for your engine. It breaks down so quickly.

Do a google search on royal purple damage or royal purple sheer properties.

Thanks.

Which Redline oil? Isn't there a few series of oils?
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I wouldn't use Royal Purple to lubricate a mousetrap much less put it in my car.
That's sig worthy right there.

I have never liked Royal purple for anything.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis
IMO, I like zinc levels to be in the 1500+ range. Redline, CAM2, Joe gibbs are all in the 2000+ range.

Thanks to the Alchemist for the knowledge in this thread!
I know a little bit about oil and chemistry, and try to help where I can. I'd rather give up 5-10hp by running a better, safer oil. Leave the 'horsepower oil' to the guys on Saturday morning TV.

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Thanks.

Which Redline oil? Isn't there a few series of oils?
Check for ones that specify that they are high in either zinc or ZDDP. Can't go wrong with any of the CAM2 products.

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That's sig worthy right there.

I have never liked Royal purple for anything.
It's the truth. I won a free case once from a raffle on the power tour and turned it down.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Thank you louis ,
I am allready using vr1 20w50.
What do you recommend for the t56 ??
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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I just throw in Zmax twice a season. No issues.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I run CAM2 BlueBlood exclusively which has some of the highest levels of ZDDP and zinc out there.
I got a case of the CAM2 BlueBlood 10w-30 synthetic blend oil, and it says on it "not for use on commercial vehicles/street cars" or something like that. I was wondering why they would say that? What would make it good for "racing" engines, but not recommended for non-racing engines?
I am assuming its fine to put in my stock LS1, but just want to make sure.
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Originally Posted by z-camaro
I got a case of the CAM2 BlueBlood 10w-30 synthetic blend oil, and it says on it "not for use on commercial vehicles/street cars" or something like that. I was wondering why they would say that? What would make it good for "racing" engines, but not recommended for non-racing engines?
I am assuming its fine to put in my stock LS1, but just want to make sure.
For the same reason when you buy a camshaft it says 'for offroad use only'.

Like I said above, yes, the zinc and phosphorous can reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converters. But again, if your motor is built right, you get minimal blowby and it's not a concern. They have to put that label on due to legal verbage associated with the whole cat battle between the epa, automanufacturers, warranties for cats etc.
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So what does everyone think about Mobil 1 Synthetic? I figure if GM puts it on alot of the LS1 oil caps, etc, they have to support it for use in "our engines". Unless Mobil 1 just pays them alot, which could be probable.

But then that would not help them at all with warranty costs.
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