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Old 01-19-2013, 02:25 AM
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I'll likely just upgrade the fel setup when the time comes that I need that much fuel. I won't be at 600hp for a long time....
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
I'll likely just upgrade the fel setup when the time comes that I need that much fuel. I won't be at 600hp for a long time....
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The stock fuel pump isnt' going to like being pushed that hard for that long. Seriously, once you get to 500rwhp or so with FI, you need to ditch the factory pump and get serious.

Trust me, if your fuel pump starts to fail, and can't keep up, you're going to have a lot of problems.

Lonnie's dual intank setup is around $700. Sure, sounds expensive, but it's a simple plug and play setup and you don't have to worry about it.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
The stock fuel pump isnt' going to like being pushed that hard for that long. Seriously, once you get to 500rwhp or so with FI, you need to ditch the factory pump and get serious.

Trust me, if your fuel pump starts to fail, and can't keep up, you're going to have a lot of problems.

Lonnie's dual intank setup is around $700. Sure, sounds expensive, but it's a simple plug and play setup and you don't have to worry about it.
You aren't reading my post's man! I have the racetronix pump with the hotwire kit. Saposed to be good to 700hp
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
You aren't reading my post's man! I have the racetronix pump with the hotwire kit. Saposed to be good to 700hp
Ok. What's the flow rate on it? I'm not a fan of a hotwire kit personally, but to each his own. Read above, the guy has a Racetronix with a hotwire and is going lean at 550rwhp. NOT A GOOD THING WITH FI.

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Right from their site, so unless you plan on doing this you'll be out of a pump soon. I decided against this and de tuned some. Rather spend then money on a better pump set up then just putting a bandaid on it.

The Racetronix harness comes equipped with an interface connector just after the relay (see product picture above). This connector in combination with an optionally supplied connector set (P/N PBIC) allows for easy plug and play addition of a pump booster / voltage amplifier such as the MSD or KB units. These voltage amplifiers / boosters will allow the Racetronix single in-tank pump system to support up to 700RWHP when run at 16-17 volts. This configuration offloads the excessive current draw placed on the factory wiring onto the heavy gauge Racetronix harness system. System diagnosis becomes easier by simply being able to unplug, isolate and bypass sections of the wiring system.
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Man that single is not going to get you no where near where you want to be, do it right... do it from the start. Go ahead and wire up a second pump on a relay and tie it onto a hobbs switch.
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Originally Posted by stealth355tpi
Right from their site, so unless you plan on doing this you'll be out of a pump soon. I decided against this and de tuned some. Rather spend then money on a better pump set up then just putting a bandaid on it.

The Racetronix harness comes equipped with an interface connector just after the relay (see product picture above). This connector in combination with an optionally supplied connector set (P/N PBIC) allows for easy plug and play addition of a pump booster / voltage amplifier such as the MSD or KB units. These voltage amplifiers / boosters will allow the Racetronix single in-tank pump system to support up to 700RWHP when run at 16-17 volts. This configuration offloads the excessive current draw placed on the factory wiring onto the heavy gauge Racetronix harness system. System diagnosis becomes easier by simply being able to unplug, isolate and bypass sections of the wiring system.
This is a good point about using voltage boosters, it is never a good idea to base your fueling needs around something like a boost-a-pump.

For what you will pay for a booster you can buy a second fuel pump and do it right.
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Apparently everyone missed the title "budget" build. Your pump will be fine for your goal. Your injectors will not so look for some 60's.
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Well there is a difference between budget, and not having enough money where you open yourself up to doing more damage than good. I think we all want to see the OP get his car working where he's happy with it. Versus not meeting his goal or blowing his motor. Even budget builds have required parts. In the end it all up to him though.
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You can get a walbro 255/340 for just a little over 100 bucks. Its easy as heck to wire and plumb the 2 pumps as well. Fueling isnt the area to skimp on but it can be done on a budget! I converted my stock lines into a return style system and with those 2 340's, I've put down 830rwhp so far.
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Originally Posted by flame
Apparently everyone missed the title "budget" build. Your pump will be fine for your goal. Your injectors will not so look for some 60's.
Yes I agree. My tuner will be able to tell if my fuel is good or not. This pump hasn't been in long and will stay in until I find a need more pump. I will not be going over 550hp for the next year or so. It's not to hard to get to the pump for when I do reach that power level.
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yeah about 550-600 is the limit on the Hotwire setup. lean is mean.
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I have an autometer procharger labeled mechanical boost gauge if interested. Its a 2 1/16. Pm me if interested.
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
Alright here are my plans with what I have and what I plan on getting in the future. Any suggestions to help in a positive way are much appreciated!

First off I picked up a D1sc head unit for $1350 with 4k miles on it... I'm thinking of going with the cxracing intercooler kit off ebay for $475 and picking up a big red bypass valve for $300. Parts I plan to pick up from brute speed are- 6-rib J bracket $400, 6-rib pulley+bolt $200, crank pin kit $100, procharger+belt $200, air filter assembly $260. For fans I think I'll run a set of derale pusher fans for $300.

I only plan to run 5-7psi for awhile until I get the transmission built! I will post everything in order and add up the total below.

D1sc head unit-$1380
cxracing intercooler kit-$275
Proflow Bullet bypass-$125
8-rib J bracket-$225
8-rib Pulley+bolt-$65
crank pin kit-$100
ATI super damper-$435
Procharger pul+belt-$140
Deral pusher fans-$300
air filter+hat-$200
Ati boost gauge-$70

So total is at $3,320. Any parts you guys see that I'm leaving out? Any recommendations?
Update I bought a proflow bullet bypass and saved some more $ rather than going with a big red.

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Just thought I'd post a link to the spal fan needed with the procharger kit that I'll be getting. For anyone in the future that needs the info. I'm going to start off with just the 16" spal fan, but if it doesn't cool well enough by itself I will add the 9".

16" spal part number VA33-AP71/LL-65A 30102082

9" spal part number 30100452

http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/..._Code=30102082
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You sure you want to use pushers and not pullers?
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Definitely go with a puller and not a pusher.
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The Spal 30102082 is a puller fan, which is the way to go. Are you going to mount it using the ProCharger fan sheetmetal? Bob
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
You sure you want to use pushers and not pullers?
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Definitely go with a puller and not a pusher.
The spal fans are puller fans like Bob mentioned below

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The Spal 30102082 is a puller fan, which is the way to go. Are you going to mount it using the ProCharger fan sheetmetal? Bob
Yes I'm going to be getting the procharger sheet metal fan from you guys at brute speed.


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