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Old 05-17-2014 | 02:29 PM
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After reading and following both thread about this car I am strongly considering dumping my intercooler. My ar is a gt91 408 and at 23psi of boost I am reasoning that my cheap ebay intercooler is causing a massive restriction. I could assume that its dropping 8-10psi and think that its only cooling the additional pressure that its causing my turbo build. I am spraying meth with a single 14gph nozzle and will ad another. I also on e85. What do you think? Think I should go for it? It would also free up airflow across my ac condensor and help my ac work better. It would drop quite a bit of weight. Any reason I shouldnt do it in your opinion? Thanks.
Old 05-17-2014 | 02:35 PM
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It would be easy for you to replace your intercooler with just a pipe. I don't run a intercooler on my car. The no ic trend is growing
Old 05-18-2014 | 02:35 PM
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It would be easy for you to replace your intercooler with just a pipe. I don't run a intercooler on my car. The no ic trend is growing
I think between the op, you and many others I am going to take the plunge. Look for a thread and results soon.
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Got my NHRA license passes complete tonight. Track was car ran great. I was slowly creeping up on the boost and launch RPM. Last pass of the night went 5.80 @ 120. With a best 60 ft off 1.34. All is good with the car as it sits. Water meth did not do as good of a job as hoped. It stabilized the heat, but didnt lower it. Everytime it got to 16 psi it would be in the 180 temp range and stay stead there for the rest of the pass. It is better then last year as it would climb to 225. Have a race tomorrow and will be doing more logging. Car is still untuned so its not running optimum. The timing @ WOT in boost was still only 14-15 degrees. Video and more info coming.
Old 05-24-2014 | 05:12 AM
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Nice job! I bet it felt nice to be back in the seat

Was 16psi the most boost you ran?
What heat range plugs? What boost controller?
off the brake?
how much boost off the line and rpm?
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Originally Posted by Cam72aro
After reading and following both thread about this car I am strongly considering dumping my intercooler. My ar is a gt91 408 and at 23psi of boost I am reasoning that my cheap ebay intercooler is causing a massive restriction. I could assume that its dropping 8-10psi and think that its only cooling the additional pressure that its causing my turbo build. I am spraying meth with a single 14gph nozzle and will ad another. I also on e85. What do you think? Think I should go for it? It would also free up airflow across my ac condensor and help my ac work better. It would drop quite a bit of weight. Any reason I shouldnt do it in your opinion? Thanks.
Why not just buy a better intercooler?
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16 lbs on low timing and running 5's is not too damn shabby.
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Why not just buy a better intercooler?
Because a good intercooler is $1200-1500 and a lot of people have had really good results with no intercooler.
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Originally Posted by Cam72aro
Because a good intercooler is $1200-1500 and a lot of people have had really good results with no intercooler.
You don't have to spend $1200 for a good intercooler. Treadstone and Garrett make a great intercooler.
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Originally Posted by oscs
You don't have to spend $1200 for a good intercooler. Treadstone and Garrett make a great intercooler.
Is the treadstone worth it? I haven't heard a whole lot about it. The op here is doing well with no intercooler. I am going to try it and see what happens.
Old 05-24-2014 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam72aro
Is the treadstone worth it? I haven't heard a whole lot about it. The op here is doing well with no intercooler. I am going to try it and see what happens.
I know a couple guys that run them with good results. I bought the trtt9 but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
Old 05-25-2014 | 02:26 PM
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I one of the treadstone's. Start of the pass was 117* end of the 1/4 mile pass was 154* with 78* ambient temps.
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Just went over all of my data just now with the water methanol mixer of 50 pure methanol and 50 water. I had it coming on how AIS recommended at 15 psi. With a max boost pressure of 20 psi. At the line I was seeing about 145-150 degree IAT temps. Once spooled and leaving the line it was near 160. Then slowly climbed to a max of 190 then would dip down about 5-10 degrees by the time I came out of WOT. So not sure if the meth came on too late, or if the mixture needs to be different. One thing that did not change much at all was the AFR.
Old 05-26-2014 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
You don't have to spend $1200 for a good intercooler. Treadstone and Garrett make a great intercooler.
Lol... please don't compare a tread stone core to a Garrett.. not even close


The tread stone cores are identical in tubulator design and density as the CX stuff. Nothing like a Garrett
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Lol... please don't compare a tread stone core to a Garrett.. not even close The tread stone cores are identical in tubulator design and density as the CX stuff. Nothing like a Garrett
Where did I say anything about comparing a Garett to a Treadstone? I said BOTH intercoolers are quality units and can be had for less than $1200. I'm sorry you think Treadstone is in the same category as CX but I will disagree.

OP sorry for the derail
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Treadstone is pretty much the same thing as CX Racing FWIW. When I was researching which core to purchase I did a ton of research and talking to companies like Bell and Garrett. I ended up doing a Bell core.

Blackws666 I would bring the methanol in a lot sooner than 15psi. I would bring it on full blast at a PSI that is just barely higher than what you launch on.
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Yup^

I have had them side by side
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Treadstone is pretty much the same thing as CX Racing FWIW. When I was researching which core to purchase I did a ton of research and talking to companies like Bell and Garrett. I ended up doing a Bell core. Blackws666 I would bring the methanol in a lot sooner than 15psi. I would bring it on full blast at a PSI that is just barely higher than what you launch on.
I agree a bell or Garrett core cannot be compared to a tread stone but I've seen a lot of mustang guys get good results from swapping CX coolers out for the tread stone units. For the money I think they are a decent cooler and they are built very well IMO but that's just what it is, an opinion. Carry on fellas

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Old 08-03-2014 | 05:35 PM
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Been awhile since my last up update. Been tuning the car myself now. Gained 75 RWHP @ 20 psi due to changing the timing and getting the methanol kit dialed in. Got a good video of the nozzle spraying on the dyno the other day.

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Says the video is private


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