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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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2000 trans am pro charger build. i had a problem a few months ago and found out i broke a spring in my heads on a cam ls1. So i figured like all car guys go big or go home right??? i had some tools and had a buddy help out. so i started out and bought a 6.0 ls1 iron block (truck) used to get a stable platform then forged all internals and Brute Speed FI cam. At the same time i bought a used F1 pro-charger w/twin intercoolers. so i looked into some stuff and decided i needed to do a fuel up grade so i went with a Lonnies performance set up and 80 lb injectors. Had a pair of kooks headers that i already had to put on so didn't count if in final coast. but everything else has been listed to get this done. Engine is almost done and will be installing asap. And my budget was $12-13k at the beginning just goes to show you will never hit you budget but will have one hell of a car. i think am going to sell some left over parts to bring down the coast some haha. I did all wrench work and then took the car to get an exhaust, tune and meth kit put in and done at Slowhawk Performance in MA. (Great shop and Don is one of the best in the business)

Engine lift 239
engine stand 69.98
Recharge kit A/C, antifreeze, lug rench 94.64
Engine Plate 54
kooks Headers 1000
f1 Pro charger ket 3900
Fuel system 610.95
FI cam 389.99
6.0 ls1 iron block 800
mis. Tools 67
Aero Force Gauge 150
Engine build 6784
Ijectors Seimens 80# Ev-1 379
"Aero Force wideband kit
Item# Sens020 " 200.6
Radiator Hold-down 73.18
Billit gauge adaptor 60.02
Slp thermostat 160 deg. 69.98
Auto meter boost gauge 118.87
Blox Vacuum Block 54.69
uhal trailer 59
Tune, exhaust, meth kit 3500


all coast 17674.9
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Nice, it all adds up quick. What kind of numbers did it put down?
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in for numbers. Props to you for keeping a record. I don't want to know because I know I'll never see any of that money again unless I part it.
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Here is the graph.

Car has 4.10 gears,stock inlet hat and stock 3" intercollers which definitely show restriction above 5200rpm. 3.42 gears would kick these numbers near the 700hp mark on our mustang dyno.

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Here is the graph.

Car has 4.10 gears,stock inlet hat and stock 3" intercollers which definitely show restriction above 5200rpm. 3.42 gears would kick these numbers near the 700hp mark on our mustang dyno.

Cheers.

This is with 3.5" twin intercoolers or the 4.5" twin intercoolers? If it is the 3.5" twin intercoolers they are really putting a hurt on this combination. Bob
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3.5" coolers.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
3.5" coolers.
Wow Don, I bet you wouldn't want to put your hand on one of the intercoolers after making a run! Bob
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Before meth inlet temp hit 150's on a pull and it's 55 degree's in the shop. LOL

I know his future plan is a front mount, move radiator for better inlet ect. That itself will kick power up a good bit, nevermind drop inlet temp.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Before meth inlet temp hit 150's on a pull and it's 55 degree's in the shop. LOL

I know his future plan is a front mount, move radiator for better inlet ect. That itself will kick power up a good bit, nevermind drop inlet temp.
Wow, that's high! You're right, there's a lot of added power to be made with this car! Bob
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im glad to hear that, so is there anything besides a single intercooler system to help this set up out?? know they are hurting it but had them and didnt have to money to go w/ a single and have some just incase funds around
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what heads did you use lbm?
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You have the real cost with going all out on a lot of things. Here is my "budget build" I'll have about $3000 into mine total by the time I'm done and sell the parts that I take off. Mine is cheaper also because I don't add in a lot that is already setup on the car like the fuel system, exhaust, intake and stuff.

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Originally Posted by lbm13186
im glad to hear that, so is there anything besides a single intercooler system to help this set up out?? know they are hurting it but had them and didnt have to money to go w/ a single and have some just incase funds around
well the big fmic
the truck inlet hat or a custom one, or none at all
better fuel
more timing.
lighter brakes/wheels/driveshaft
suitable gears
more compression
cutout
c02
less belt slip
and the less stuff the crank has to turn the easier it will turn the blower i have heard. a/c pulley.
spin it max or a little over
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Best is to get the new rear that can take it. Stronger clutch. Then look into power.

Already makes a good amount and at this level I could see it lasting 80k miles.
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
You have the real cost with going all out on a lot of things. Here is my "budget build" I'll have about $3000 into mine total by the time I'm done and sell the parts that I take off. Mine is cheaper also because I don't add in a lot that is already setup on the car like the fuel system, exhaust, intake and stuff.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...get-build.html

ya you can deff do it cheaper but ur leaving out a/f gauge, mapping bar 2 or 3 (tuning), and idk what you have done to your fuel system but you really need to pumps (injectors)... and ur planing on pushing 5 to 7 and im pushing around 13 and im just starting w/ my s/c... i could of chose to not forge all my stuff but then you have to worry about popping you engine...

my point w/ this tread is to show what you need to pay and have done if you dont want to worry about something going wrong, i was trying to build a platform to grow on and have the reliablity down the road as dd or driving it as much as possible (while being able to beat on it as much as i wont) can you do it for cheaper yes but iv heard it cost more in the long run bc you break things.... kinda why im pushing 13 lbs of boost when the f1 can put done 20+

But if you have headers and exhaust thats an expense that you can take off but when people think about putting a supercharger on their car most think you can buy a 3500-8000 "kit" and be ready to go and its not like that. Thats not even counting the suspension parts that you really nee (that i already have) like subframe connectors, torque arm, rear lower control arms, front/rear shocks and springs

just wanted to let people know what they where getting into before they start this rout just read on ur thread and it looks like your starting to figure out that theres things that you have to upgrade that you would never think of just for a lil boost.... big heads and cam is a lot cheaper, but i love the wine

good luck with your build man

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Best is to get the new rear that can take it. Stronger clutch. Then look into power.

Already makes a good amount and at this level I could see it lasting 80k miles.
ya sorry didnt really mean to say it like that, haha i know i need a new clutch and rear end... any ideas on best clutch to go w/??

and what i really meant was stuff that will make it run better and keep me out of trouble (save my as from braking).... like the return fuel line, manual tensioner ect???... kinda putting a list together for the near future to help

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I am over 30k in my build. I could have used cheaper parts and used ones. Still going. Have yet to tally up what it is because I don't care as long as it holds.
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Yes 30k is not hard to do. But you have to question your reasoning! Mine is my wife's car and she wants a new camaro. This project has drug out to far
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Originally Posted by lbm13186
ya you can deff do it cheaper but ur leaving out a/f gauge, mapping bar 2 or 3 (tuning), and idk what you have done to your fuel system but you really need to pumps (injectors)... and ur planing on pushing 5 to 7 and im pushing around 13 and im just starting w/ my s/c... i could of chose to not forge all my stuff but then you have to worry about popping you engine...

1. I have an a/f gauge already installed because I get my car custom street tuned by a friend that tunes all LSx cars around here.
2. My fuel system is a racetronix pump with hotwire that's good to 650+hp. And racetronix 42lb injectors.
3. Yes I'm running much less boost so I won't have to worry about blowing the engine. At your boost level you would def be pushing it.


my point w/ this tread is to show what you need to pay and have done if you dont want to worry about something going wrong, i was trying to build a platform to grow on and have the reliablity down the road as dd or driving it as much as possible (while being able to beat on it as much as i wont) can you do it for cheaper yes but iv heard it cost more in the long run bc you break things.... kinda why im pushing 13 lbs of boost when the f1 can put done 20+

And that is def a good way to do it if you have the $ to do it all at once!

But if you have headers and exhaust thats an expense that you can take off but when people think about putting a supercharger on their car most think you can buy a 3500-8000 "kit" and be ready to go and its not like that. Thats not even counting the suspension parts that you really nee (that i already have) like subframe connectors, torque arm, rear lower control arms, front/rear shocks and springs

See that's the thing I already a lot of stuff done to the car... I have qa1 12 way adjustable front suspension, lca's and drag spring on back with Nt05r drag radial.

just wanted to let people know what they where getting into before they start this rout just read on ur thread and it looks like your starting to figure out that theres things that you have to upgrade that you would never think of just for a lil boost.... big heads and cam is a lot cheaper, but i love the wine

Yep **** can add up quick

good luck with your build man

Thanks man you too! I'll be watching your build!
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