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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Default Stumped, ecm resets in boost.

This has me scratching my head.

turbo ls in my 1999 Firehawk

at the track I launch the car it starts pulling building boost and than the ecm does the reset, full gauge swing, trip meter resets, etc looses power and after the reset runs fine, roll back into the throttle and does the same thing.

bad ground maybe? will the coils draw enough electrical power that would create problems if my charging system might be marginal?
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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Also tried datalogging but when the ecm resets it corrupts the datalog and can't be read.
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Sounds like a bad ground to me..
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Check the grounds on the back of the heads.
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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just did all the grounds are good, I'm thinking I might be getting a voltage drop when the 2nd 340 fuel pump turns on. It's set to power up in boost. Tried datalogging but when the ecm resets it corrupts the log and won't play.

I'm wondering if the alternator is marginal?
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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I converted to a one wire alternator which does not require PCM signal to charge. It was upgraded to 160 amps
Had it done for relatively cheap at a local shop
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AgFormula02
I converted to a one wire alternator which does not require PCM signal to charge. It was upgraded to 160 amps
Had it done for relatively cheap at a local shop
the 105amp alternator upgraded to 160? same alternator?
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 04:44 PM
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disconect the second pump and try a quick pull.
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The more I troubleshoot the more I'm leaning towards a marginal alternator. Today it was charging at 14v, yesterday I never saw more than 12v.
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"I'm wondering if the alternator is marginal?"...
Time to check/test/verify the integrity of the entire electrical system.
What are you seeing on a data log w/o putting the boost into play?
Does it do the drop out at the same boost level, repeatedly?
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Is the battery secure?

Mine would hit the a/c accumulator and ground out - everything would die and then come back to life.
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
"I'm wondering if the alternator is marginal?"...
Time to check/test/verify the integrity of the entire electrical system.
What are you seeing on a data log w/o putting the boost into play?
Does it do the drop out at the same boost level, repeatedly?
I agree, spent much of yesterday doing that.
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
"I'm wondering if the alternator is marginal?"...
Time to check/test/verify the integrity of the entire electrical system.
What are you seeing on a data log w/o putting the boost into play?
Does it do the drop out at the same boost level, repeatedly?
All the battery cables have been replaced this year but spent yesterday checking all the grounds, the ends of all cables, inspected for abrasion or burn damage.

The system was charging at 12v and slightly less in the staging lanes, replaced the alternator and now I see 14v, have to wait a week before heading back to the track.

I think I might get the idiot of the day award, I can't remember if your charging system is always charging at 13.6-14.2? If so it was staring me right in the face.
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Originally Posted by mike13
I think I might get the idiot of the day award, I can't remember if your charging system is always charging at 13.6-14.2? If so it was staring me right in the face.
Ideally it should be 14.0.
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Originally Posted by vwdave
Ideally it should be 14.0.
Is that a constant 14.0? With the engine running I should never see 12v?
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mine did this exact thing when i would hit boost. Motor would twist when it hit peak torque and my catch cans would hit the battery terminal. covered the terminals and moved my catch cans and the problem was gone.
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Originally Posted by mike13
Is that a constant 14.0? With the engine running I should never see 12v?
Should be over 12v. I dont like anything under 13.5 while running.
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Originally Posted by Ryans99ls1
mine did this exact thing when i would hit boost. Motor would twist when it hit peak torque and my catch cans would hit the battery terminal. covered the terminals and moved my catch cans and the problem was gone.
Ya, I ruled that out right away.
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Originally Posted by vwdave
Should be over 12v. I dont like anything under 13.5 while running.
Thanks.
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I ran around with a bad alternator for a long time. thing almost never charged at 14v. with the lights/fans on the car, it dropped reallllyyy low. Never caused any performance issues until it actually took a ****, but the car suddenly became completely undriveable at that point. It was bucking and surging like no ones business at idle. Its worth a shot to replace yours as electrical problems can be weird but i wouldnt be surprised if its something else.
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