slowlsx

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Anyone making big power with a non intercooled setup and loads of meth?

Contemplating losing my intercooler as it just might be a restriction for my motor and 1/8 racing and run 3 or 4 meth nozzles with pumo gas.

Also lose a few pounds off the front end.

My intercooler is only 3" outlets and ebay version.

Anyone making big power without an intercooler on 100% meth?

Stumped1215

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For this to work well I would recommend e85, a carb, or race gas.

slowlsx

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On top of meth?

I wouldnt mind running c16 but ive never herd of people doing it non intercooled

Skraight

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...rformance.html

I think these guys are running non-intercooled exactly like you are looking for.

Slowhawk

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Shouldn't be a problem. I run mostly 1/8 and know the intercooler does nothing. It's for the street. We run 2-15 nozzles on 93 octain and have gone consistent 5.2-5.3's.

slowlsx

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THIS!!!

Im running a -10 and -14 currently but I can switch out the -10.

What kind of compression do you run? Progressive meth?

slowlsx

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I beleive he is running E85.. kinda wanted to stay away from ethanol right now since it will cost me big time to upgrade my fuel system.

Stumped1215

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I would run the meth with a carb for sure. With e85 or race gas I doubt it will be much of an advantage.

c16 works well non intercooled its q16 that you want to stay away from.

slowlsx

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Carb is definitely out of the question lol, I already have the holley hi ram and its sexy lol.

Thats what I was thinking. Im thinking of doing non intercooled and 2 big nozzles under 15psi then throw c16 in the tank and turn off the meth.

CameronVic

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I've blown a couple motors going this route. Granted it was a stock shortblock, and I'm not a ***** when it comes to throwing boost to a motor. If I were to try it again, I would have a progressive on the meth, I would use ethanol in the tank instead of methanol as to make tuning more consistent and less complicated. I would ditch the LS6 intake because I'm not totally sure it was distributing the amount of meth evenly.

Photochop

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Maybe look into a dual nozzle setup and use a meth/water mix. Have one nozzle right after the compressor housing of the turbo and another right before the TB - depending how long of a run that pipe is. You'd probably be alright if the first came on at 1psi and the other at like half your total boost maybe? Just speculating/brainstorming

slowlsx

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Im already running dual nozzles. . My keep those before the tb and run a 3rd pre compressor.

Is there any data on spraying pre compressor?

CameronVic

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I sprayed pre compressor and it helped a lot. This pass was with one nozzle pre compressor and one after. One nozzle only kept the IATs to like 240*. The one pre compressor lowered it to 185* by the 1/4 traps

Sales@Tick

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Pre-compressor is a huge help. It also will increase compressor efficiency by decreasing outlet temps from running high boost levels. Cameron did you see a boost increase when you went pre compressor with the same gate settings? I've heard some people say that they gained boost psi when spraying pre compressor.

I believe one of Lil John's customers that runs Ultimate Street runs C16 blow through carb with M1 methanol injection and has been as fast as 5.28@135 IIRC.

Good tuning and diligent plug reading will allow a non I/C set-up to run it's best IMO. I have thought about running C16 in mine as well.

CameronVic

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I do recall it jumping about 10kpa.

slowlsx

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Thats good info!

You see what I was thinking is run my original dual meth nozzles before the tb then run one pre compressor.

I am currently running a -10 and -14 before my tb.. would you recommend going larger? Also how big of a nozzle should I run pre compressor?

I could do that for the street and throw c16 in the tank when I get to 18-24psi if need be!

CameronVic

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I ran a smaller nozzle pre compressor compared to the one after the compressor. Something just didn't seem like a good idea about spraying a huge nozzle pre compressor.

slowlsx

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Yea thats oretty much what I was thinking. Im wondering if I could use my -10 nozzle on the ore compressor and run 2 -14 before my tb

Sales@Tick

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I am going to run a 15gph pre compressor, go big or go home!

I think a 10gph nozzle would be sufficient if not a 15gph nozzle.

slowlsx

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Will you be running pump gas?