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Old 08-23-2013, 01:39 PM
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Not sure what to tell you just telling you what works for me.....
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Through testing I've found several ways to extend the power band of a large cubic inch motor with a small turbo. It's still a bandaid, but it certainly helps.

With that stall or any stall for that matter, the cam that makes the most average power in the power band the engine is used in will get it down track fastest given the combination.

If you'd like just send me an email Vetal.
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New cam and bigger turbine.
Old 08-25-2013, 06:01 PM
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Martin, sent you an email.
sbcgenII, which cam? I don't hope to be able to choose one myself...
Old 08-25-2013, 06:13 PM
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stock48, if I get it correctly, I should go for around 218-222 duration (was it intake or exhaust)? and 112-114LSA, right?
Or should I just let Martin@Tick spec my cam cause he will know best?
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Originally Posted by Vetal
Or should I just let Martin@Tick spec my cam cause he will know best?
Correct.
Old 08-27-2013, 01:54 AM
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Did this already
Still, I do this all as a hobby, not a job, so I like to know somewhat, what and why do I order and put in my engine
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Originally Posted by stock48
I've tested a bunch of different cams between 212, and 230 @.050 with a 6.0L tc76/68 and the 212/112, and 114 went the quickest and fastest with turbo maxed. Once duration got past 220 truck lost mph and spooled noticably later.
That new turbo (s475, I guess) on the Nova, is it much bigger than TC78?
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It's a lot bigger Vetal. Physically it dwarfs the TC78.
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Ordered 229/239 116+6 today, hope it will be beast on track and street with proper cam and larger turbo Thanks Martin @ Tick
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Lmao. That's great.
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Why?
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If you're going to tighten the converter like you mentioned in your last email then the cam needs to be ground smaller.

If your converter is still going to operate from 5500 and up, and the flash speed is 5500+, then grinding a much smaller cam isn't going to benefit you where the converter is allowing your engine to operate.

There is so much more to spec a cam than seeing one cam do good in one set-up with totally different parts not to mention vehicle weight and cubic inches and saying, "this will work for you too!" Then when you don't go with that cam it's, "you messed up it will never run right!"

Then again, not everyone tests camshafts every day of the week, 24/7 as a living. On hundreds of cars, hundreds of different set-ups and countless track test sessions, dyno sessions and data to comb through.

When you do that for a living, no matter how long you've done it for, you understand what I'm saying.
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Originally Posted by Vetal
Why?
I'd think its obvious. Go ahead and read your thread again. Its all there, everything you need to know.
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I think it should be noted that I have talked Vetal into a PT88 or 8847 turbo.

He will not be using the TC78 anymore.
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So what turbo did you go with
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Nvm posted just after Martin. I think going with the bigger turbo should have been the first step
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Originally Posted by T76s10
So what turbo did you go with
Not decided yet, I have around 6 months now to decide. I want PT8847 but new it costs too much, so I'll wait maybe some good used one will pop. Or maybe Comp / PT / TC will come up with some new small-frame turbo with 82mm+ turbine but cheaper than PT8847.
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Originally Posted by stock48
I've talked about it over the years and nobody ever seemed to care back then. Lol. There was a 212/112 lsa, a 221/114 lsa, and a 230/114 lsa I tested back to back one summer. The 212, and 221 cam were similar with slight advantage going to the 212 cam, and 230 cam was hard to launch, would nose over on shift if shifted below 6300, and had lowest trap of the 3. This was a 4850 lb 4x4 truck with small turbine. Tc76 maxed out.
Nobody seems to care now either. That's good news for you though. These guys will always wonder why they're looking at your license plate lol. Won't wonder hard enough to actually figure out why, though. It'll always just be the mystery that was detailed and explained to them Pixie dust, right? Or maybe its invisible jesus pushing on your bumper to make you go faster. Who really knows...
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Originally Posted by T76s10
Nvm posted just after Martin. I think going with the bigger turbo should have been the first step
Well engine is out because of damaged cam, so I need cam now, but I asked Martin to spec it for a larger turbo already, I hope that makes sense?


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