Fuel system help..
Fuel system help.. Alright, some of you have been following my "Prroject Red rock twin turbo" build thread, and I will be ordering a fuel system in the upcoming weeks. Ive spent quite a bit of time searching and cant really find the solid information im looing for.
Car is 99% street car, shooting for 1000rwhp+ on 93/meth (considering E85) eh.. any way..
FIC Bosch 127# injectors
the original plan for the fuel setup is.. (from the tank in order)
Sumped stock tank /-10 feed/Prefilter/Magnafuel4303/postfilter/-8 feed to Yblock/dual -8s to rails/dual -8s to Regulator/single -6 return (cant find a -8return regulator?)
How much power will this support? How much on E85? should i set it up differently?
Drivetrain will be th400/3600stall/MWC 9" (maybe 4l80e)
I keep finding different power levels and setups for this, and dont want to order the wrong ****.. Hopefully someone can help me out here.
Car is 99% street car, shooting for 1000rwhp+ on 93/meth (considering E85) eh.. any way..
FIC Bosch 127# injectors
the original plan for the fuel setup is.. (from the tank in order)
Sumped stock tank /-10 feed/Prefilter/Magnafuel4303/postfilter/-8 feed to Yblock/dual -8s to rails/dual -8s to Regulator/single -6 return (cant find a -8return regulator?)
How much power will this support? How much on E85? should i set it up differently?
Drivetrain will be th400/3600stall/MWC 9" (maybe 4l80e)
I keep finding different power levels and setups for this, and dont want to order the wrong ****.. Hopefully someone can help me out here.
I just now looked into it.. I was trying to stay under $1200 for the fuel system minus injectors. Is it doable? I know where i can get SS line for $5/foot.
imma stick with 93/meth. im not buying new injectors. just did a calculator and my injectors are only good for 957rwhp on e85.. about 1250 on 93. so... whip me up a fuel system plz
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Verdad Gallardo i just called lonnies, i can do his twin 255 for $600. Does the squash come with the wiring harness and hobbs switch? If it does, ill def go with the squash. I can get bradied line for like $5/foot. i think i can get this done for around $1200.
Last edited by allout06; Aug 19, 2013 at 09:58 PM.
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My plan which is for a similar setup to yours - I want 1200rwhp on E85.
Dual -8 feed from sumped cell.
Y to single -12/-10 (fuel filter) AEO 12302
Aeromotive belt drive fuel pump off balancer mandrel AEO 17241
-10 to filter
Y to -8's to holley rails
FIC 2200 injectors
Aeromotive efi turbo reg AEO 13113
-10 return
Dual -8 feed from sumped cell.
Y to single -12/-10 (fuel filter) AEO 12302
Aeromotive belt drive fuel pump off balancer mandrel AEO 17241
-10 to filter
Y to -8's to holley rails
FIC 2200 injectors
Aeromotive efi turbo reg AEO 13113
-10 return
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I'd rather have too much fuel and spend the money once aye. And i went belt drive because i want to be able to do long trips without cooking pumps etc.
Every vendor said i'd be dreaming to drive 8 hours to a track, thrash it for 4 days straight (powercruise) and drive home on the one electric pump with no issues.
Pending everything else stays together...
Every vendor said i'd be dreaming to drive 8 hours to a track, thrash it for 4 days straight (powercruise) and drive home on the one electric pump with no issues.
Pending everything else stays together...
I'd rather have too much fuel and spend the money once aye. And i went belt drive because i want to be able to do long trips without cooking pumps etc.
Every vendor said i'd be dreaming to drive 8 hours to a track, thrash it for 4 days straight (powercruise) and drive home on the one electric pump with no issues.
Pending everything else stays together...
Every vendor said i'd be dreaming to drive 8 hours to a track, thrash it for 4 days straight (powercruise) and drive home on the one electric pump with no issues.
Pending everything else stays together...
the belt driven pump set up your are talking about. will the fuel pump be in the front and the tank in the back? if so i do not see you sucking fuel that far without some issues when you launch.
in my case and i am guessing in some of these other guys that are pushing you toward e85 we have been down the meth injection route. sure it was a good way to go if you wanted to avoid race gas but were making too much power for pump gas. i felt like it was a safe way to add a couple hundred hp over what the pump gas was able to do. i have pulled a couple of top quality progressive kits off of cars to switch to e85.
then along came e85. holly ****, it is cheap, you just pump it right into your car, easy to tune, will handle a ton of power, it will give you a much greater window for making mistakes while tuning(saves your motor). TIME TO MAX OUT THAT TURBO
nearly everyone that has a high hp boosted car runs e85 if they have it available. it really is that good.
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we have been running the holly 1800hp pump on a few things and haven't seen a failure yet. quiet, pretty looking and we have a lot of hours on these things. is anyone killing the hollys?
the belt driven pump set up your are talking about. will the fuel pump be in the front and the tank in the back? if so i do not see you sucking fuel that far without some issues when you launch.
the belt driven pump set up your are talking about. will the fuel pump be in the front and the tank in the back? if so i do not see you sucking fuel that far without some issues when you launch.
Yes, tank in back and pump up front. Pump lower than tank. -12an gravity fed.
I will probably use a surge tank and lift/prime pump yet, unsure at the moment.
Have read about a few drag racers with similar setups and having no issues. Trial and error I guess. I don't plan to launch this thing anyway. More of a street/circuit/highway car.
those injectors are good for a lot more hp than that.
in my case and i am guessing in some of these other guys that are pushing you toward e85 we have been down the meth injection route. sure it was a good way to go if you wanted to avoid race gas but were making too much power for pump gas. i felt like it was a safe way to add a couple hundred hp over what the pump gas was able to do. i have pulled a couple of top quality progressive kits off of cars to switch to e85.
then along came e85. holly ****, it is cheap, you just pump it right into your car, easy to tune, will handle a ton of power, it will give you a much greater window for making mistakes while tuning(saves your motor). TIME TO MAX OUT THAT TURBO
nearly everyone that has a high hp boosted car runs e85 if they have it available. it really is that good.
in my case and i am guessing in some of these other guys that are pushing you toward e85 we have been down the meth injection route. sure it was a good way to go if you wanted to avoid race gas but were making too much power for pump gas. i felt like it was a safe way to add a couple hundred hp over what the pump gas was able to do. i have pulled a couple of top quality progressive kits off of cars to switch to e85.
then along came e85. holly ****, it is cheap, you just pump it right into your car, easy to tune, will handle a ton of power, it will give you a much greater window for making mistakes while tuning(saves your motor). TIME TO MAX OUT THAT TURBO
nearly everyone that has a high hp boosted car runs e85 if they have it available. it really is that good.
I have done dragweek 5 times. 1000-1500 mile road trips in our hotrods. We never had trouble finding e85 but we did plan ahead and knew when and where to stop. It might mean filling up at 1/2 a tank just because you know there is a 200 mile stretch with no stations ahead.
Hmmmm l. Maybrle im making it out to be more of a pain than it really is. I was kind of worried of the consistency of e85 around here too. I think ill buy a tester this week and see what I come up with. What kinda fuel mileage could I expect? 3.55 gears, th400, 3600 stall, 390ci, twin turbo, 1000rwhp lol
