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Old 10-09-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 3pedals
...Use 2 step for consistent launch rpm and if you want, setup a timing retard while the 2step is active- this will help build boost on the line. Get ready for lots of poping and banging! ...
The timing retard is setup on my 2step, it is wicked for sure!


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...but I have NEVER had any success getting good 60's with the ET street bias . Radials don't work with a stick car...
What were you trying to say here?

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Flat foot shifting , don't mess with a 2 step for this, just leave your foot on the floor, graze clutch pedal, and pull stick hard and fast. Shift it like you hate it...
Yup, the idea of that makes me cringe. I have been shifting my cars like a girl since I was 8.

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i figured you were referring to bias, the et streets dont hold a candle to the et drags though from my experience
Yea, they wouldn't have been my choice, I am just borrowing them.

Do you guys just run ET DRAGs?

Also, what rear gear are you guys running with your setups? I always thought you wanted a low(numerical) gear for turbo setups...
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I was saying the ET street bias tire spins too much, and I have never been able to run better than 1.57 60ft with them, they just aren't a very good tire. I was also meaning that the ET radials don't work on the track with a stick car, and don't bother trying them.
I have a second set if rear rims with ET drag /28x10.5's for the track, and I like radials for street duty
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Originally Posted by PUNISHER TA

Also, what rear gear are you guys running with your setups? I always thought you wanted a low(numerical) gear for turbo setups...
Run as much gear as you can get away with turbo or not. Hopefully after this weekend you will have a good idea on your mph so you can make an informed decision.

My 3.70 gear and 26 inch tires are good to around 135mph at 6500rpms. 28 inch tires would take me to 146ish.
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I run 4.30's, but everyone will tell you that is a no no. I will eventually have to get a numerically lower ratio because of trap speed, but I should be able to go 155 with the 4.30's and 29.5's and I am sure that is more than enough mph to kill the sbe.
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Yes most guys think tall gears are where it's at, but the truth is you need to Gear car to be at shift rpm in high gear at the finish line.
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Originally Posted by 3pedals
Yes most guys think tall gears are where it's at, but the truth is you need to Gear car to be at shift rpm in high gear at the finish line.
exactly. gearing a manual car is easy. how fast do you want to go at the top of fourth. use gear, rpm, and tire size to get there

i run 28" tires (street and track), 3.70's, limiter is at 6600. I geared my setup for a goal of trapping low 140's. currently trap 136ish at 5800-5900. running out fourth is can hit upper 140's
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Originally Posted by 3pedals
As mentioned, you NEED a deeper rear gear, 3.25's are not ever going to work properly on a stick car.
Use 2 step for consistent launch rpm and if you want, setup a timing retard while the 2step is active- this will help build boost on the line. Get ready for lots of poping and banging!
I use 28x10.5 slicks, they work well, but I have NEVER had any success getting good 60's with the ET street bias . Radials don't work with a stick car.
Flat foot shifting , don't mess with a 2 step for this, just leave your foot on the floor, graze clutch pedal, and pull stick hard and fast. Shift it like you hate it
I went 10.85@135 with a 1.84 60ft(not bragging) on 17" rims with MT DR's on the back, No 2 step on the car yet, just revving it up and letting the clutch out and granny shifting
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Dang the car isn't that bad.



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Originally Posted by smooth01
I went 10.85@135 with a 1.84 60ft(not bragging) on 17" rims with MT DR's on the back, No 2 step on the car yet, just revving it up and letting the clutch out and granny shifting
Thats what we like to hear. Nice!
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you go racing?
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Originally Posted by Tally TransAm
you go racing?
Ridiculousness ensued the week before...

Worked all week to get the car ready for the track.

Thursday I went out to work on the tune... A mile out, 54% max TPS... my engine ate 2 screws from my TB... WTF!!!!

Didn't hurt anything really, luckily. So, I just threw her back together and tomorrow Ill have her back out, we'll see if she's gonna stay together. I have a couple races this weekend, so ill work on the tune and then the last NO ET event is Nov 2nd... So Ill be there if she's still together.
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holy crap that could be shitty

good luck man
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Originally Posted by Tally TransAm
youre overthinking it. just focus on the launch. if you have time for the two step to have any effect during the shifts your doing it wrong and not shifting fast enough

rpm gives you wheel speed and boost gives you power to pull through and get the car moving. with a manual and a stock style clutch (non slipper) its all about controlling the initial tire spin and getting full hook right in the meat of the power. your going to need a good amount of rpm to the get good wheel speed out of 28" and 3.25's so i would launch with as much rpm as possible and use timing retard to up the boost to control the spin. good luck on et streets though

for what its worth i generally launch at 4800-5200, dont pull timing and see 1-3 psi, and cut low 1.5s with 3.70's and 28" et drags

no matter what happens, post results. no one seems to post 6 speed results here
Full weight car 3720lbs. (1/2 tank of pump gas) street tires,26 inch toyo R888 on factory rims, launch at idle, spin at shifts, 2+ 60ft times, lower boost setting, 11.75@131, 11.80@132, hitting 6600rpm limiter before the traps, need 28 inch before I go back! Thanks Tally

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Glad you got it back together, I need to put my car on the lift last friday after my second pass trans started to spit fluid out not sure whats going on. track prep wasnt the best
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Correct me if I'm wrong but are you talking about anti-lag like what rally users use to keep boost up between shifts?
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I always left my 2 step armed and it would activate any time the pedal was down.
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
I always left my 2 step armed and it would activate any time the pedal was down.
What about when you shift at high rpm if you was to have 2 step set say at 4000. Would it not try to activate upon clutch pedal decompression in between gears?
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Just like was said before use some slicks not drag radials lower the pressure and just hammer the **** out of it you will be fine and put up some good number!
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never noticed it.

between cracking the throttle like i always did and maybe not pushing the pedal allll the way down till it clicked the switch, trying to shift quick in general, and the revs being so far over the 2 step rpm.

of those things combined it was a non-issue.
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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
What about when you shift at high rpm if you was to have 2 step set say at 4000. Would it not try to activate upon clutch pedal decompression in between gears?
it doesnt, ive had mine setup on the bottom clutch switch for years. clutch in = active, clutch out = not. always, everytime the car is running for probably 8k miles

the only time youll notice the 2 step engaging is if youre heavy on the throttle and on the clutch at the same time. the only two times that occurs is launching and power shifting and if your taking so long to power shift that the two step engages, youre doing it wrong. even casual high rpm shifting, youre gonna lift off the gas as you depress the clutch and reverse procedure as you engage the next gear, the spark cut has no effect if your lifting off the throttle or the rpms are falling anyways

heres an older vid, 2step was probably in the 5k range. i dont power shift in the vid, occasionally i do, but as you can see no effect on shifts as all



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