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Old 03-05-2014, 08:20 AM
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amazing job, that is so cool-curious the weight diff bet the old and new, unless I missed it
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Joke?
Nope, not a joke. I was just looking at the rest of the car and was kind of amazed that someone would let a real Ferrari look that crappy. Also, the inner structure inside the engine bay looked like it was cobbled together in a HS metal shop. Maybe the build quality of older Ferraris were not that great...that's why I asked if it was a kit car.

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Pretty cool man. To add to what others have said, I toasted a Subaru 5 speed gear set at a whopping 240 awhp. Might as well sell it while it is whole. Unless you just want to idle it around town.
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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
Nope, not a joke. I was just looking at the rest of the car and was kind of amazed that someone would let a real Ferrari look that crappy. Also, the inner structure inside the engine bay looked like it was cobbled together in a HS metal shop. Maybe the build quality of older Ferraris were not that great...that's why I asked if it was a kit car.

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It's an old car, nothing hi tech or fancy.

Sure just look at the Dodge Viper form the 90's, it was big bits of box section welded together !
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This swap is the best of both Worlds ,A+!
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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
Nope, not a joke. I was just looking at the rest of the car and was kind of amazed that someone would let a real Ferrari look that crappy. Also, the inner structure inside the engine bay looked like it was cobbled together in a HS metal shop. Maybe the build quality of older Ferraris were not that great...that's why I asked if it was a kit car.

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The older Ferrari's are rather crude, as are many older vehicles compared to what is manufactured today. Ferrari owners were asked to put up with some things most owners wouldn't tolerate. Faulty window switches and expensive cam belt replacements every 10,000 miles, are two I can think of offhand. One more, very little space for the drivers feet. 308's look fast but are exceptionally slow 16 second 1/4 time vehicles.

To the OP, awesome job, very cool! You did a great job with the headers! Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Ferrari owners were asked to put up with some things most owners wouldn't tolerate. Faulty window switches and expensive cam belt replacements every 10,000 miles, are two I can think of offhand. One more, very little space for the drivers feet. 308's look fast but are exceptionally slow 16 second 1/4 time vehicles.
I think this is an incredibly narrow minded view of the 308. The 308 generated 255 NET HP from an all aluminum 3 liter V-8....in the 1970's, with awful and primitive emissions controls, weber carbs and only 2 valves per cylinder. 180 cubic inches and 255 HP is a pretty decent output. You have to consider the cars in the frame of when they were contemporary. The engine was fully capable of power levels almost double that in race trim. Also, a Ferrari is not a 1/4 miler. They are all around performers.

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Originally Posted by OldGold
I think this is an incredibly narrow minded view of the 308. The 308 generated 255 NET HP from an all aluminum 3 liter V-8....in the 1970's, with awful and primitive emissions controls, weber carbs and only 2 valves per cylinder. 180 cubic inches and 255 HP is a pretty decent output. You have to consider the cars in the frame of when they were contemporary. The engine was fully capable of power levels almost double that in race trim. Also, a Ferrari is not a 1/4 miler. They are all around performers.

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Absolutely, just a lot in the US only see 1/4 mile and nothing else.

In it's day, around a track, or some nice roads I'm sure the Ferrari would be an awesome drive.

As for reliability, it's an Italian Ferrari !! Dont think anyone would ever expect them to be reliable lol.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Absolutely, just a lot in the US only see 1/4 mile and nothing else.

In it's day, around a track, or some nice roads I'm sure the Ferrari would be an awesome drive.

As for reliability, it's an Italian Ferrari !! Dont think anyone would ever expect them to be reliable lol.
They are very well engineered and robust, if cared for. The biggest issue with a Ferrari is maintenance. We, as Americans, are accustomed to engines that are designed to operate virtually maintenance free for long periods of time. This era of Ferrari, i.e. the "cam belt era" is particularly expensive to maintain because in order to change the timing belt, the engine has to be removed. This applies to 308s, 512s, Testarossas, Mondials, 328's, etc. Ferrari has gone away from a timing belt, fortunately.

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The reliability comment was more about electrics, but that isnt limited to Ferrari. It seems all Italian cars struggle in that department, almost to this day !

The 308 is still a cool machine. I know I had a poster of one on my wall when I was young.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
The reliability comment was more about electrics, but that isnt limited to Ferrari. It seems all Italian cars struggle in that department, almost to this day !

The 308 is still a cool machine. I know I had a poster of one on my wall when I was young.
Italian and English electrics leave a good deal to be desired. They don't call Lucas "The Prince of Darkness" for nothing!!!

The 308 made all the right noises and was a driver's car. No power steering, he-man clutch, gated trans. It took skill to drive that car well. We had one in the garage, a '78 with Webers. It was not quick by today's standards, but it felt quick. It also would run out to 150 mph, spinning that little quad cammer to close to 8k. As a teenager in the '80s, I learned a good deal driving that car when my dad permitted, LOL. I had a '65 GTO, which was much quicker, but it was nothing like the Ferrari.

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Yea ill have to see what the subaru box does. always can swap in a 930 or g50. The car is a true Ferrari 308GT4. They can get rough quick when someone can afford to fix one and its passes through enough hands. Im trying to reverse all the damage. IMPORTANT!!! I got it running with the headers today!!! heres a link to the video.
http://s828.photobucket.com/user/voo...bd2d3.mp4.html
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Holy ****, did it sound like that in person? WOW!
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Originally Posted by Tjabo
Holy ****, did it sound like that in person? WOW!
Yea it did!
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That subaru box is sooooo gone, lmao.
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Sounds bitchin,cant wait to hear it turbo charged.
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I just saw this today, and it's a Very Cool build!

Nice job and Thanks for sharing it!
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Awesome build.

I probably missed this but, just curious of a couple of things.

1) WHY OH WHY WOULD YOU WRAP THIS WORK OF ART??? lol. No disrespect but, those are some SICK headers. Sick. It's a shame to cover em up but, it's your build and to each they're own.

2)Motor mounts? Solid? The turbos, solid mounted? My apologies if I missed that. I was thinking if they're solid, you may not have any issues but, if they aren't..you may wanna consider adding a flex bellows in between the v bands and the turbos. You wouldn't wanna use something with an INNER BRAID(pre turbo) but something with an INTERLOCK would be fine and durable.



Thoughts? Or am I being overly cautious. Just would hate to see anything happen to those headers. Again,..I probably missed all of the above. My bad if so.


Either way,..super cool and thanks for sharing.

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Holy crap that sounds wicked!

Great work. More vids please!


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