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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 01:19 PM
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Was talking to a guy yesterday, and he told me his engine builder is converting his engine block to priority oiling to the mains. Is this possible? He said it involves drilling a hole on the outside of the block? Anybody do this? Any pics?
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The question I have to ask is why ???
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This article might answer some questions
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...g-main-system/
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by stock48
The question I have to ask is why ???
Why not? I don't want to have another issue with bottom end oiling issues.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 02:18 AM
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LS style blocks are pretty durable as is. I haven't heard or seen to many/any complaints as far as that's concerned. I'm not saying the mains can't be starved thou.......anything s possible.
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dmaxvaz
Why not? I don't want to have another issue with bottom end oiling issues.
I don't see the priority oiling hurting anything if done right but unless you are making excess of 1600 hp and or turning over 9000 RPM consistantly I don't think it will do much for you. These engines are pretty amazing in stock to near stock form. What problem are you having with your bearings?
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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Converting it aye. I'd have to see it
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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On stock block seen here. The two galleries feed everything. Mains are last in line



On the lsx the galler y on the right lower is the first gallery, it feeds the mains first, and from there the can bearings...... Then oil enters the two upper galleries to feed the lifters

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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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We used to see LOTS of stock block bearing failure in our circle track customers when I worked at VED. LSX blocks always fixed the problem.

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 02:56 AM
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The oiling problem with the ls is not the strategy.......it's the pump design. Still for 99% of stuff it's not a problem anyway.
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Doesn't change the fact the mains are at the end of the line on a stock block
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cptinjak
We used to see LOTS of stock block bearing failure in our circle track customers when I worked at VED. LSX blocks always fixed the problem.

Jack
I had heard most of the bearing failures on "stockish" road course stuff was due to the factory oil pump flow falling drastically at sustained highish RPM? Also the Gforce/pickup issue on corners. Any of those customers that picked up an LSX block bolt a factory oil pump to it? Or run factory pan's and pickups on the aftermarket blocks?

Just curious as the 2 "LS" SCCA buds I know all have oil accumulators, big oil pumps, and improved racing baffles on basically stock LS1's. And specifically said it was to fight the bearing oil starvation issues. They appear to be holding up well with these modifications.

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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Doesn't change the fact the mains are at the end of the line on a stock block
Why is that a big deal? Show me one ls motor that has had oiling issues related to the strategy and not the pump.

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I had heard most of the bearing failures on "stockish" road course stuff was due to the factory oil pump flow falling drastically at sustained highish RPM? Also the Gforce/pickup issue on corners. Any of those customers that picked up an LSX block bolt a factory oil pump to it? Or run factory pan's and pickups on the aftermarket blocks?

Just curious as the 2 "LS" SCCA buds I know all have oil accumulators, big oil pumps, and improved racing baffles on basically stock LS1's. And specifically said it was to fight the bearing oil starvation issues. They appear to be holding up well with these modifications.
Thats exactly right. I have some pretty cool data logs that show this very well.
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Considering just look at yours. It looks like **** on the bottom.

. You have no idea if a priority block would yield happier mains
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 01:25 AM
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You talking about mine looking like **** on the bottom?
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Yes. and to say it wouldn't matter is bogus since you haven't ran a priority block
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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The c5r block is a non priority main block and I know there have been a few of them on the track without bearing problems.

Non priority main blocks work fine if you fix the oil leakage in the blocks. Generally the lifter bores are out of round and too big and you have lots of leakage around them. I've either bored and put in .903 lifters or put in lifter bushings. You can also put in roller cam bearings, they do not require pressurized oil and make a pretty good difference.

Either way I've seen 8800 rpm on non priority main blocks with stock style oil pump.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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Shawn, do you think restricted pushrods help much for the leakage or not?
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Yes. and to say it wouldn't matter is bogus since you haven't ran a priority block
Please enlighten me on how my bottom end looks like **** due to an oiling problem. I hope your thinking of someone elses stuff.

This is after 40 passes with a cog driven f2 hanging off the side of it.

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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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since no one in this thread has converted their blocks to priority oiling, and it's turned into a pissing match, this thread has become useless....
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