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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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not really any other changes.. i mixed race gas back in and moved back up to the 670rwhp tune.. my mph was down but i did get one pass at 138.50.



this was my 10.46 run i posted on the boosted list.. oh yea it shook the tires after i left the line resuting in my new best of 1.67 60'

anybody want to help me get some traction? this was without the 2 step because it would just spin. i burnt these qtp's to the ground i kinda put myself in a hole setting up with this tire as i cannot find a wider tire with the same 27" height... also trying to stay d.o.t. as i drove 70 miles to the track and back yesterday.. am i asking for too much?

some other pics on the day :edited:
http://public.fotki.com/jaime302/car...ring_shootout/
around middle of the pages, hotlinking wasnt allowed

i also raced friday night and got a 10.85 at 131 on my pump gas setting. 1.69 short.

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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Beautiful Pic Dave
Too bad I can't help out on the traction. What are you running for traction gear? Maybe a few others can help out.
Damn those are excellent times
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Those other links didn't work for me
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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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I was using those tires, they were good N/A, but now I've stepped up to the D.O.T. ET streets 28x12.5x15

If these don't do the job, I'll be going to a full slick, congrats on the new best
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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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thanks, i got the pic link fixed.

rear gear is 3.42 so i would have to change that if i went to 28".. also i just dont like how 28" tires look on the back of these cars.. just too big.

i have a spohn adj. tq arm set at -2.5* and adjustable phr, bmr subframes and boxed lca's, qa1 shocks around set to 6 all around, v6 rear springs, qa1 front springs
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Old May 30, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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congrats on the new times.

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Old May 30, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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That pic just kicks ***.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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28's look fine, mine don't stick out too far, if thats what your worried about.....its hard to tell the difference between them and the 27's I had
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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im worried about cutting up the bumper (and throwing off my gear)


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rears are run at 12psi they are qtp 27*11.5
fronts are mt front runners 40psi.
no airbag, stock swaybars.
burnouts are long and i keep them spinning out of the water.

used to have lca reloc. brackets but i sold that rear and have done better without them so far.
battery is relocated to the back (water tank in front) but battery only weighs 13#
normally have little over 1/4 tank and car is nearly 3700 including me (weighed 3590 with me before turbo system)

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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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I didn't do any cutting of the bumper at all to get my 28x12's in there.....

Just step up to a 3.73

That will be worth it in the future......either 6-speed or TH400, either way with a TH400 you are well into the 9's.....
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if i switch to a 400 i wont have anything to complain about.. whats fun about that?

my car is lowered about 1" in back with the v6 springs fwiw.
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lowered in the back could be a problem, I was lowered too with my eibachs in the rear, got rid of them for v8 springs now......

Yes, I miss my 6-speed at times, for consistent times though I dont
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
rears are run at 12psi they are qtp 27*11.5
fronts are mt front runners 40psi.
no airbag, stock swaybars.
burnouts are long and i keep them spinning out of the water.

used to have lca reloc. brackets but i sold that rear and have done better without them so far.
battery is relocated to the back (water tank in front) but battery only weighs 13#
normally have little over 1/4 tank and car is nearly 3700 including me (weighed 3590 with me before turbo system)
are teh fronts 8ply's or 4ply's? the duration of drag racing is too short to build any temperature in the front tires, at least not enough to hurt them. if you have teh 8ply's i suggest getting the pressure up a lot, i think they advertise either 65 or 75 max psi cold on teh sidewall, try that + 5psi for your runs.
i fyou still have teh front sway on there you shoudl consider pulling off at least 1 endlink when you run. teh sway prevents about 1/2 inch of front end travel and since the bushings are not able to move in an arc like teh suspension does the range of motion they do have is slowed dramatically.
relo brackets are a great thing, assuming you have adjustable arms to go with them. if you can get a set of relo's on there, use teh middle setting if you have stock control arms and teh lowest setting if you have adjsutables.
you may also be able to dial out a little bit of wheel hop by going up about 1lbs on the rear tiree pressure. a car will accelrate faster if it is blacklining the tires with a minor amount of wheel slip than it will hoppign the tires.
you may also want to consider playing with the amount of gas you are running at teh track, since the problem is most liklely a weight transfer issue you may want to try runnig a bit more. you will be giving up a little trap speed with teh extra weight, but i woudl take a tenth at teh 60's over 1mph any day

hope this helps

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Old May 30, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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My advice is spend the bucks on a good suspension setup. Get a diff rear, custom short axles, and get a wide *** tire and/or a mini-tub. Get some real slicks, not the DOT tires for more stick... You can always drive somewhere with street tires, take them off and put on slicks. A little birdie told me the other day that you need to work on your suspension and you should be golden. Although, a TH400 would make it a real drag car lol...
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Old May 30, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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dave, we didnt have to cut on the fender to get the 28x13.5's to fit, just take the bump stop off and massage the fender well.

i still have my bmr xtreme drag sway bar for sale, that helped me a ton with the m6!

almost at the 140 mark!

makes me wish i still had the ta modded so we coulda run! but i love my vette!
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Outstanding David!!! Man it's good to hear you are running well. I have not run nearly as fast as you but people told me driving my et streets to/from the track was bad for them because of the heat cycling. Supposedly it makes them harder and not as sticky. Dunno if it's true but it makes sense. Just a thought to ponder. Great job. Love the mph...that's gotta feel killer!!!
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ya i dont want a drag car, if that means i'm stuck with 1.6's so be it.. shortening the axles would make my vette wheels umm not fit. for any little birdies listening i'm open to try any shock setting etc that i can.

my fronts are 8 ply. car handles like crap without the swaybar hehe but i can try popping it off next time... what about a big rear drag bar like the spohn?

thanks guys.. jerry i have heard that also. and yea it feels good.
i'm trying to make myself wait till i have the susp. dialed down to maybe a 1.5x before i bother turning things up

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Old May 31, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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David,

Great times, every time you go out you get quicker, you'll have that number 2 spot in a hurray

Now that you're running stong you are setting the bar pretty high for me , well done and keep up the good work.
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
my fronts are 8 ply. car handles like crap without the swaybar hehe but i can try popping it off next time... what about a big rear drag bar like the spohn?
from watchin the vids of your car i don't think a rear sway upgrade is needed. teh car comes out rather level and the bigger rear bar would mostly jsut be adding weight.
with the front sway dropped/loose you may want to play with the shock settings in frontr a bit. are they adjsutable seperately for compression and rebound or is it 1 adjustment that dials all? if the adjsuter is easy to get to i woudl say get teh release as free and possible, let those things extend, adn then set teh compression to full stiff so it will try to hold the weight on teh rear tires. (basically turn them into 90/10's)

don't worry about big tires, like i said before, they are jsut a band aid for poor chassis prep.

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Nice new ET.

With the power capability of your car, you would never need to step up in gear. I myself am going down to a 3.50 gear as soon as I finish up the FAST wiring.

!front swaybar would help for sure, and then run the front QA1's at 0 up to 2 loose. Run the rears at 14psi cold and go from there.

You can go up to 28's but you could also launch a little lower too. From where you sit you can probably hit a 10.2 but a 9.99 might be hard unless you could hook as well as Rob has, he's gone like super low 1.5's I think.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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higher resolution pics
http://home.comcast.net/~deezuns/104launch2.jpg


the qa1 shocks are one way adjustable, i have run the fronts at 0 before but have not noticed any consistent beneifit but if that is always the better option, then i'll just get used to setting them loose when i get to the track, the ***** are easy to get to.

i have enough gear in the car now to go 150 with a 27" tire, thats how i set it up and i would definitely want to go back to 3.73 if going to a 28" tire.. i have a set under my bed but i'd rather not... best would be to try somebody's 28's with the 3.42.. maybe the gear will help in first gear more than it will hurt in the others. when you say launch lower you mean lower the 3400 i was blowing the tires off with saturday on the 2 step?

again not willing to chop down the rear or tub my street car.
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