aes 390
He knows exactly what's up.
He failed to supply goods I paid for months ago. Eventually some arrived, and now he's failed to give me a refund for the CA625's he didnt supply.
And nowhere was there ever an explanation as to why for either. Just lies that they were on their way etc.
I'm as patient as anyone could be, but I've just had enough which is why I've no hesitation now in posting about it.
He failed to supply goods I paid for months ago. Eventually some arrived, and now he's failed to give me a refund for the CA625's he didnt supply.
And nowhere was there ever an explanation as to why for either. Just lies that they were on their way etc.
I'm as patient as anyone could be, but I've just had enough which is why I've no hesitation now in posting about it.
Can't leave people hanging like that.
Again....maybe the most important item in choosing a shop....is one that is local to you. Next to making the shop have some skin in the game and ONLY giving them 50% up front, the other 50% upon delivery.
Its a fact that if you show your face at the shop....and spend more money than the next guy.....they treat you better and have more time for you....and get your project out the door sooner.
Its very rare that a shop will treat two guys the same....one who builds a $20,000 race motor and one who gets a head/cam kit sold to him. They SHOULD both be treated the same....as customers. Because who knows when the H/C guy will need a $20,000 motor built.
Sorry to say......its America......and its just the way it is in America. Money rules.....the more they can get from a customer, the more they will cater to that person. This is not seen in other parts of the world. I live in Dubai 6 months a year......me and my fiance went to a Ferrari dealer last week just to walk around and ask questions. (not buying of course).....we were treated exactly the same as some of the mega Millionaire and Billionaire Emirate customers that were there with their Veyrons (2 of them were there in the parking lot), Rolls Royces and Lambos. We got all kinds of attention.
Too bad.....AES will be gone soon too. Then the next shop will pop up to take their place. ((I'll be quoting this post in future threads when it happens)).
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Its a fact that if you show your face at the shop....and spend more money than the next guy.....they treat you better and have more time for you....and get your project out the door sooner.
Its very rare that a shop will treat two guys the same....one who builds a $20,000 race motor and one who gets a head/cam kit sold to him. They SHOULD both be treated the same....as customers. Because who knows when the H/C guy will need a $20,000 motor built.
Sorry to say......its America......and its just the way it is in America. Money rules.....the more they can get from a customer, the more they will cater to that person. This is not seen in other parts of the world. I live in Dubai 6 months a year......me and my fiance went to a Ferrari dealer last week just to walk around and ask questions. (not buying of course).....we were treated exactly the same as some of the mega Millionaire and Billionaire Emirate customers that were there with their Veyrons (2 of them were there in the parking lot), Rolls Royces and Lambos. We got all kinds of attention.
Too bad.....AES will be gone soon too. Then the next shop will pop up to take their place. ((I'll be quoting this post in future threads when it happens)).
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He knows exactly what's up.
He failed to supply goods I paid for months ago. Eventually some arrived, and now he's failed to give me a refund for the CA625's he didnt supply.
And nowhere was there ever an explanation as to why for either. Just lies that they were on their way etc.
I'm as patient as anyone could be, but I've just had enough which is why I've no hesitation now in posting about it.
He failed to supply goods I paid for months ago. Eventually some arrived, and now he's failed to give me a refund for the CA625's he didnt supply.
And nowhere was there ever an explanation as to why for either. Just lies that they were on their way etc.
I'm as patient as anyone could be, but I've just had enough which is why I've no hesitation now in posting about it.
Same deal with me! Paid 100% up front and got the runaround. the way they operate is they collect a bunch of deposits from New people to finish the engines that people already paid for previously, and the delay cycle continues. Your money they owe you is spent, and will be hard for them to credit you, when they don't have it.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
I have a build going there now that is substantial and it's almost complete (seen with my own eyes) at only 50% down. Will pay the balance at pick up.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
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Again....maybe the most important item in choosing a shop....is one that is local to you. Next to making the shop have some skin in the game and ONLY giving them 50% up front, the other 50% upon delivery.
Its a fact that if you show your face at the shop....and spend more money than the next guy.....they treat you better and have more time for you....and get your project out the door sooner.
Its very rare that a shop will treat two guys the same....one who builds a $20,000 race motor and one who gets a head/cam kit sold to him. They SHOULD both be treated the same....as customers. Because who knows when the H/C guy will need a $20,000 motor built.
Sorry to say......its America......and its just the way it is in America. Money rules.....the more they can get from a customer, the more they will cater to that person. This is not seen in other parts of the world. I live in Dubai 6 months a year......me and my fiance went to a Ferrari dealer last week just to walk around and ask questions. (not buying of course).....we were treated exactly the same as some of the mega Millionaire and Billionaire Emirate customers that were there with their Veyrons (2 of them were there in the parking lot), Rolls Royces and Lambos. We got all kinds of attention.
Too bad.....AES will be gone soon too. Then the next shop will pop up to take their place. ((I'll be quoting this post in future threads when it happens)).
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Its a fact that if you show your face at the shop....and spend more money than the next guy.....they treat you better and have more time for you....and get your project out the door sooner.
Its very rare that a shop will treat two guys the same....one who builds a $20,000 race motor and one who gets a head/cam kit sold to him. They SHOULD both be treated the same....as customers. Because who knows when the H/C guy will need a $20,000 motor built.
Sorry to say......its America......and its just the way it is in America. Money rules.....the more they can get from a customer, the more they will cater to that person. This is not seen in other parts of the world. I live in Dubai 6 months a year......me and my fiance went to a Ferrari dealer last week just to walk around and ask questions. (not buying of course).....we were treated exactly the same as some of the mega Millionaire and Billionaire Emirate customers that were there with their Veyrons (2 of them were there in the parking lot), Rolls Royces and Lambos. We got all kinds of attention.
Too bad.....AES will be gone soon too. Then the next shop will pop up to take their place. ((I'll be quoting this post in future threads when it happens)).
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I can add a little more about AES. I dealt with the same runaround bullshit during my purchase/build. It went from a 6 week build, to a 9 month build. There was a bunch of other stuff that needless to say, I was far from impressed with.
Just ran across another issue with my AES 390. Mine was supposed to have LS9 head gaskets, as pretty much any boosted build would. My invoice even calls out for them. I pushed a little water last year, and recently looked into this during my Spring updates. Sure enough, 6.0 head gaskets, and not the LS9's.
Sounds very similar to dmaxvaz's build. Find out the quoted parts aren't actually what was invoiced versus installed.
Bunch of a crooked bastards.
Anybody still doing business with them is taking quite a risk.
Just ran across another issue with my AES 390. Mine was supposed to have LS9 head gaskets, as pretty much any boosted build would. My invoice even calls out for them. I pushed a little water last year, and recently looked into this during my Spring updates. Sure enough, 6.0 head gaskets, and not the LS9's.
Sounds very similar to dmaxvaz's build. Find out the quoted parts aren't actually what was invoiced versus installed.
Bunch of a crooked bastards.
Anybody still doing business with them is taking quite a risk.
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From: Aus
if you havent seen the pattern, it's not the local people that get screwed, it's the guy on the phone that is from another state/country/continent that pays up front, and then get lied to about everything. The guy from Australia gets his 18 months later with sawdust in the engine and a lot of missing parts?
Safe to say I don't expect my 398 to last long. Probably don't even have LS9 gaskets either...
Should have just bought 10 LQ9's instead.
Ah well. Live and learn.
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From: Norn Iron
Visually the only difference between 6.0 and LS9 gaskets are largely the LS9 is 7 layer and slightly larger bore ?
I did get my LS9 gaskets from them, and they look the same as the 6.0/6.2 I was using, same markings etc.
But they were vacuum sealed with the GM part number on the packaging for the LS9 gasket.
Must admit though I havent actually counted the layers or measured toe bore of the gasket yet. But packaging looked like OEM quality and it was definitely a GM parts sticker so presume them to be ok.
Not that head gaskets are much ******* use without the head studs I wanted lol
I did get my LS9 gaskets from them, and they look the same as the 6.0/6.2 I was using, same markings etc.
But they were vacuum sealed with the GM part number on the packaging for the LS9 gasket.
Must admit though I havent actually counted the layers or measured toe bore of the gasket yet. But packaging looked like OEM quality and it was definitely a GM parts sticker so presume them to be ok.
Not that head gaskets are much ******* use without the head studs I wanted lol
LS9 gaskets have the part number stamped on a tab that will show even when they are installed. Only ERO's gaskets just have a small tab that says "6.0" and mine have the part number in plain sight. AES is a joke of a company. Can't believe they've made it this far.
I have a build going there now that is substantial and it's almost complete (seen with my own eyes) at only 50% down. Will pay the balance at pick up.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
I have a build going there now that is substantial and it's almost complete (seen with my own eyes) at only 50% down. Will pay the balance at pick up.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
Where there is smoke there is fire, however, I was at World of Wheels yesterday in Chicago and AES had probably 50 cars there. If they were such a terrible shop I doubt they would want to be so visible to the public.
Communication and documentation is key during any build. At any rate, I pointed them to this. I am certain someone will be on here shortly to respond and engage with anyone who feels wronged.
Last edited by mike06tork; Mar 26, 2015 at 10:45 PM.
you get what you pay for. well i dump $33,500 payed in full already for my 461 RHS build that it should hold 2000hp fine. im trusting this guys im all in already, it is hard to get a hold of mike but ohh well it should be done in 2-3 weeks. ill share some pics when i get some. i haven't seen much of my stuff.
DAMN! A lot more than me!
Guessing that is a tall deck? Been seeing issues of the RHS cracking, but I don't think it's a prob for the tall decks.
you get what you pay for. well i dump $33,500 payed in full already for my 461 RHS build that it should hold 2000hp fine. im trusting this guys im all in already, it is hard to get a hold of mike but ohh well it should be done in 2-3 weeks. ill share some pics when i get some. i haven't seen much of my stuff.
You always hear the negative things. People rarely post about their good experiences. I agree AES communication SUCKS!!! But I also believe their machine work is very, very good. Only using them because I can drive to the shop and look people in the eye.
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From: Norn Iron
They emailed me a photo of the refund slip last night, nothing showing on the credit card yet though. I guess it might take a day or so to appear.
TBH it's probably best they dont comment on this thread. Sometimes staying silent is actually the better business plan when it comes to forums so arguments dont follow.
So not saying anything is the smarter option under the circumstances.
TBH it's probably best they dont comment on this thread. Sometimes staying silent is actually the better business plan when it comes to forums so arguments dont follow.
So not saying anything is the smarter option under the circumstances.