I have a confession to make..
I know its hard to go to this site but turboneonstore.com has them for $449.00
Best I have seen so far but I am still looking, if this gets moderated (even though no sponsors sell this item) then PM me.
MM - how much tuning do you do at the track? do you have a couple programs for different levels of boost from the dyno? I would like to run 10# on the street but be able to run 14# at the track and I am no tuner so would I need two dyno tuned programs and LS1 edit to switch back and forth? How could I best do something like that?
Thanks, Libertine
Best I have seen so far but I am still looking, if this gets moderated (even though no sponsors sell this item) then PM me.
MM - how much tuning do you do at the track? do you have a couple programs for different levels of boost from the dyno? I would like to run 10# on the street but be able to run 14# at the track and I am no tuner so would I need two dyno tuned programs and LS1 edit to switch back and forth? How could I best do something like that?
Thanks, Libertine
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Originally Posted by buschman
As for a race I'd love to see it too, but keep in mind a company is calling out an individual. Dave doesn't have an automtive shop backing him up so even if Rob beat him it wouldn't mean much to me.
Originally Posted by buschman
But if you want to bring the QMP kit you bought with your money, call Dave out then you got a race on even footing. Not that I'm trying to setup races for Dave or anything, but keep things in perspective. TTi client v. QMP client = even race.
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From: Germantown, MD
Originally Posted by 02BlueFirehawk
Why not? Dave's car is similar in power to Raymers, why would raymer have the advantage other than he has a garage to take his car apart in, and has the imediate funding (one would assume) to add something here or there if need be.
Originally Posted by 02BlueFirehawk
When I get my car up to track-spec, I will call dave out. QMP vs TTi. Hope Dave is in the 9s by then.
If you wanna race for trap speed... Well I've seen Dave's runs and I think you might be biting off more than you can chew. But you're both faster than me... well except for you Rob, since your car still isn't back from QMP. But anywho, I'll talk trash on my own car(it's slow ) and let you turbo boys setup your own challenges.Mike
p.s. S/Cers rule
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Yeah but Dave has the high-power tunes already. TTi did them for him, right? Plus he's DFI, Raymer is stock PCM (for now)
Anyway, I do need to get a TH400, 12-bolt, suspension mods, roll cage, drive shaft, and a couple other tid-bits before I can set tred on a track again. The car would drop it's *** out if I hook anywhere. lol.
If my calculations are correct, I should see 13x mph. Good enough for me.
Also, I got a hold of Rob via email today. He said we're looking at around mid-June for pickup. So hopefully I'll have the car back and we can go cruising Mike.
P.S. Turbo's rule.
Anyway, I do need to get a TH400, 12-bolt, suspension mods, roll cage, drive shaft, and a couple other tid-bits before I can set tred on a track again. The car would drop it's *** out if I hook anywhere. lol.
If my calculations are correct, I should see 13x mph. Good enough for me.
Also, I got a hold of Rob via email today. He said we're looking at around mid-June for pickup. So hopefully I'll have the car back and we can go cruising Mike.
P.S. Turbo's rule.
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From: CHICAGO
Originally Posted by buschman
It's funny how you naturally assume Rob and right.
Originally Posted by bushman
But if you want to bring the QMP kit you bought with your money, call Dave out then you got a race on even footing. Not that I'm trying to setup races for Dave or anything, but keep things in perspective. TTi client v. QMP client = even race. Mike
Even though I dont race for money. If I had my car and Dave brought his to
North vs South. I think sooner or later would have to race, cause we would be in the same class. But since both are cars are not going to be there We will have to wait and see at future track rentals
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ya rob is great and his kit is great 
,so lets just drop it so i can listen to dave,oh besides dave i may need some help with the boost controller,ill pm you tommorow
,so lets just drop it so i can listen to dave,oh besides dave i may need some help with the boost controller,ill pm you tommorow On The Tree
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From: Charlestown, Indiana
Originally Posted by Transdamit
my e-boost does the same thing and i belive it does say that it cuts the boost in half,also that was the last of my worries,after what happened to my kit
Transdamit - I sense a bit of anger towards me from you again. I can only assume something happened to your kit? And you an MM are obviously exchanging PM's about it. Odd that I haven't heard about it yet. Is there anything I can do to help?
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i dont have any pms yet but i welcome them.
my turbosmart works correctly, i have no problems at all with it's function.
if my mph stays at 138 (or higher ) on my next runs then that will be all the proof i need.
if anyone can read a dfi file i can gladly send it to them so they can watch it happen during replay.
my turbosmart works correctly, i have no problems at all with it's function.
if my mph stays at 138 (or higher
) on my next runs then that will be all the proof i need.if anyone can read a dfi file i can gladly send it to them so they can watch it happen during replay.
I can't read a pdf something is wrong with my software, can someone cut'n paste the relevant section so we can read it...
If MM and Rob don't stop it I will turn on the ignore feature for both of you and you will not be able to see each other's posts anymore it's so ridiculous.
If MM and Rob don't stop it I will turn on the ignore feature for both of you and you will not be able to see each other's posts anymore it's so ridiculous.
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There's nothing wrong with your software. It's the operator.
That's most of the relevant stuff regarding this. I'm sure if there are any other sections people can post those up.
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4a. Over Boost Shutdown – VERY IMPORTANT! In order to successfully program your e-Boost you MUST carefully follow this section. The Over Boost Shutdown or OBS is a very important safety feature of the e-Boost. The OBS must be set to a SAFE level at least 0.15 bar (2.2psi or 15kpa) above the highest boost pressure you want to produce. The OBS is factory set to 0.48 bar (7 psi or 48 kpa), so you must enter a figure in order for the e-Boost to produce more than standard boost pressure. The purpose of this feature is to protect the user against accidentally entering a boost set point value that is too high, preventing a dangerously high boost pressure. Extreme care should be taken when setting this parameter, Turbosmart recommends that you seek advice from an appropriately qualified technician with regard to the OBS setting.
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If the OBS is triggered the e-Boost begins to reduce the boost pressure to half of that set in the OBS parameter. Once this safe pressure is achieved the e-Boost returns to normal operation.
4a. Over Boost Shutdown – VERY IMPORTANT! In order to successfully program your e-Boost you MUST carefully follow this section. The Over Boost Shutdown or OBS is a very important safety feature of the e-Boost. The OBS must be set to a SAFE level at least 0.15 bar (2.2psi or 15kpa) above the highest boost pressure you want to produce. The OBS is factory set to 0.48 bar (7 psi or 48 kpa), so you must enter a figure in order for the e-Boost to produce more than standard boost pressure. The purpose of this feature is to protect the user against accidentally entering a boost set point value that is too high, preventing a dangerously high boost pressure. Extreme care should be taken when setting this parameter, Turbosmart recommends that you seek advice from an appropriately qualified technician with regard to the OBS setting.
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If the OBS is triggered the e-Boost begins to reduce the boost pressure to half of that set in the OBS parameter. Once this safe pressure is achieved the e-Boost returns to normal operation.
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Regarding the OBS, if you notice, it says "it begins to reduce the boost pressure to half of that set in the OBS parameter". It does not say it reduces boost pressure to half. Meaning that the boost decreases relatively slowly until it reaches a safe level below the OBS setting. IT DOES NOT IMMEDIATELY DROP TO HALF!
If you have a turbosmart, don't take my word for it. Go set your OBS to the same as your boost setting and see what happens....it will drop to about 1-2lbs less than your normal boost setting, then climb right back to full boost and hold steady. It will not drop by half...GUARANTEED.
If you have a turbosmart, don't take my word for it. Go set your OBS to the same as your boost setting and see what happens....it will drop to about 1-2lbs less than your normal boost setting, then climb right back to full boost and hold steady. It will not drop by half...GUARANTEED.
Last edited by smokinHawk; Jun 2, 2004 at 10:54 AM. Reason: got rid of the off topic jazz
That was then, this now, get over it.
Anyone got that info handy? I assume this product will only work for turbochargers... I'd love to be able to cut my boost down to 10psi on the street with my YS Trim.
Anyone got that info handy? I assume this product will only work for turbochargers... I'd love to be able to cut my boost down to 10psi on the street with my YS Trim.
Oops, Derty just told me in IM that he posted the info and there it is. So it might cut it in half or at least it will start reducing boost. Do you have boost logs MM? What you using for logging, the Gen7?
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Rob, perhaps there's a comprimise in the logic of both arguments.
Perhaps one can assume that the programming logic of the boost controller will in fact set the boost level to half of the max boost setting. But your boost rises fast enough to where it appears to only drop off a few pounds and gradually go back to it's previous max boost level.
An alternative might be that MM's program logic is older/newer than the program logic in your controller therefore they may act differently.
Another alternative might be a difference in wastegate spring strength causing the differences.
Personally, I wouldn't want a boost controller that cuts my boost in half when it reaches an overboost limit. That's just retarded. If that's what this controller does, according to MM, then that will keep me from buying one down the road. I'll be content with my HKS controller. :p
Perhaps one can assume that the programming logic of the boost controller will in fact set the boost level to half of the max boost setting. But your boost rises fast enough to where it appears to only drop off a few pounds and gradually go back to it's previous max boost level.
An alternative might be that MM's program logic is older/newer than the program logic in your controller therefore they may act differently.
Another alternative might be a difference in wastegate spring strength causing the differences.
Personally, I wouldn't want a boost controller that cuts my boost in half when it reaches an overboost limit. That's just retarded. If that's what this controller does, according to MM, then that will keep me from buying one down the road. I'll be content with my HKS controller. :p