"Budget" 1000whp tt questions
#21
Holley 160s are $449.
Calculate all your costs and really see how much a stock ecu costs to run.
Cheap is good but not when it results in cheap parts or having to do it twice.
Calculate all your costs and really see how much a stock ecu costs to run.
Cheap is good but not when it results in cheap parts or having to do it twice.
I'm not on an extreme budget. I'm already 15k in the car. I'd like to save some money if possible and figure out where the best places are to do it and what parts I should buy. For instance, what size injector will I need. I figured about 2000cc. So I proved myself out for some id2000s and they're about $1350. Can I find something that will get me by without going over $1000. How much will a harness and ecu run? I don't have either. I have just a bare 60k mile lq4 long block. If I have to spend 7-800 on a fuel pump I will but if I can get away with a $500 one I would go for that.
#23
Update
Thanks to Jon at FIC, i have been able to save A LOT of money with a partial sponsorship. Amazing people over there and they just made me a customer for life!
New parts to add to the build are:
FIC 2000cc Injectors
MS3-Pro with the harness
FTI 3800 Stall Converter
TCI SFI Approved Flexplate
ARP Fasteners for the converter and flex plate
Waiting for a few things on the chassis so i can get it towed to my work finish the wiring and fuel plumbing.
Thanks to Jon at FIC, i have been able to save A LOT of money with a partial sponsorship. Amazing people over there and they just made me a customer for life!
New parts to add to the build are:
FIC 2000cc Injectors
MS3-Pro with the harness
FTI 3800 Stall Converter
TCI SFI Approved Flexplate
ARP Fasteners for the converter and flex plate
Waiting for a few things on the chassis so i can get it towed to my work finish the wiring and fuel plumbing.
#24
Jon is a really good guy. I used to run the C4 corvette ZR-1 net registry
all the old 90-92 vettes had injectors that broke down in the alchy spiked gas and replacing 16 of em was really a bitter pill if you bought the factory stuff which would of course just fail again (not if, when)
Jon came though for the club and got lots of ZR-1s back on the road running right
I got my FIC Bosch 127s for about 800 which is pretty good.
all the old 90-92 vettes had injectors that broke down in the alchy spiked gas and replacing 16 of em was really a bitter pill if you bought the factory stuff which would of course just fail again (not if, when)
Jon came though for the club and got lots of ZR-1s back on the road running right
I got my FIC Bosch 127s for about 800 which is pretty good.
#27
#28
Unrelated to this^
Sold some Subaru parts I had laying around from a 9s STi that I just did a full build on and bought some 1/2" head studs and ls9 head gaskets. Gona run with the stock 317s for the time being or have a coworker work them a little bit for a favor and throw a ljms cam in it when I get the money. I'm overly excited to see this thing coming together.
#31
#32
I rid myself of the stock ECM and lots of wiring, gained a ton of features and have Holley EFI running for a good bit less with those injectors. Fired right up and runs great, and its super easy to adjust!
#34
Racetronix has a E85 capable 160lb injector for around $500. If im not mistaken they have the option for low and high impedance. i run the low's on my car and have zero complaints.
#35
love the budget stuff. I have some budget 4.8 builds in the works and will build the engines and then find a home (another car) for them.
like to hear more about the dominator holley ecm. I'm thinking of swapping to one since it has the built in tranny controller I need for the 480LE and the 4L65E trannies I'm using.
the old buick guys did quite a bit with the tuning of the factory ecm, but not having a wide band to help seems daft.
the on the fly corrections and helping to zero in on the tune seems worth the price of admission.
like to hear more about the dominator holley ecm. I'm thinking of swapping to one since it has the built in tranny controller I need for the 480LE and the 4L65E trannies I'm using.
the old buick guys did quite a bit with the tuning of the factory ecm, but not having a wide band to help seems daft.
the on the fly corrections and helping to zero in on the tune seems worth the price of admission.
#37
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOSCH-Gas-Petrol-Methanol-210lb-2200cc-High-Impedance-Fuel-Injector-0280158821-/171762029311?hash=item27fdd092ff&vxp=mtr
#38
I'm pretty happy with how its coming together.
I bought a
zr1 3 bar map sensor, $30
GM Pigtail, $8
Mac ECBS, $22 with fittings and connector
GM IAT, the good one for boost, $24 with the pigtail and a vibrant 3/8 npt bung
My 1/2" studs came yesterday. My Injectors and MS3-Pro came on saturday. My torque converter and other goodies come today. What's left is the rest of the fuel system, some body work, some engine internals, cold piping, wheels and tires, and lots more man hours on my end.
I bought a
zr1 3 bar map sensor, $30
GM Pigtail, $8
Mac ECBS, $22 with fittings and connector
GM IAT, the good one for boost, $24 with the pigtail and a vibrant 3/8 npt bung
My 1/2" studs came yesterday. My Injectors and MS3-Pro came on saturday. My torque converter and other goodies come today. What's left is the rest of the fuel system, some body work, some engine internals, cold piping, wheels and tires, and lots more man hours on my end.
Last edited by actACCORDingly; 05-05-2015 at 11:44 AM.
#39
Fuel pumps will be an issue at those levels as well. There are no reasonable priced single pumps capable of 1000whp on e85 I’m aware of.
Cheapest route would be 4 255HP ($96ea with An6 fittings) inline pumps (GSL392). 2 pumps plumbed in parallel per injector rail. Each rail having it’s own Fuel pressure regulator. -8 feed to both rails, -6 returns.
Good luck!
#40
I get some like the idea of one pump. Looking strictly at flow/pressure per $ spent you really can't beat the 255's. They cost less than a 625/750 pumps and flow more. if your on a "budget" 3 of them would flow more than a Magnafuel 625.