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Old 04-02-2015 | 06:49 AM
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Holley 160s are $449.
Calculate all your costs and really see how much a stock ecu costs to run.
Cheap is good but not when it results in cheap parts or having to do it twice.

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I'm not on an extreme budget. I'm already 15k in the car. I'd like to save some money if possible and figure out where the best places are to do it and what parts I should buy. For instance, what size injector will I need. I figured about 2000cc. So I proved myself out for some id2000s and they're about $1350. Can I find something that will get me by without going over $1000. How much will a harness and ecu run? I don't have either. I have just a bare 60k mile lq4 long block. If I have to spend 7-800 on a fuel pump I will but if I can get away with a $500 one I would go for that.
Old 04-02-2015 | 10:04 PM
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I would put a Holley HP on it and call it done the stock ecu are to limiting for it.
Old 04-29-2015 | 01:34 AM
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Update

Thanks to Jon at FIC, i have been able to save A LOT of money with a partial sponsorship. Amazing people over there and they just made me a customer for life!
New parts to add to the build are:

FIC 2000cc Injectors
MS3-Pro with the harness
FTI 3800 Stall Converter
TCI SFI Approved Flexplate
ARP Fasteners for the converter and flex plate

Waiting for a few things on the chassis so i can get it towed to my work finish the wiring and fuel plumbing.
Old 04-29-2015 | 07:23 AM
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Jon is a really good guy. I used to run the C4 corvette ZR-1 net registry

all the old 90-92 vettes had injectors that broke down in the alchy spiked gas and replacing 16 of em was really a bitter pill if you bought the factory stuff which would of course just fail again (not if, when)

Jon came though for the club and got lots of ZR-1s back on the road running right

I got my FIC Bosch 127s for about 800 which is pretty good.
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How in the hell do you get partial sponsorship?
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For real^?

No offense but on a
"budget" build too.

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Old 04-29-2015 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
For real^?

No offense but on a
"budget" build too.

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Right? No offense OP but if your car can snag a sponsor maybe i need to start looking for someone to pay for my hobby
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Right? No offense OP but if your car can snag a sponsor maybe i need to start looking for someone to pay for my hobby
He didn't pay for anything. I still had to buy everything. He just got me some great deals which I'm more then greatful for and I'm honored to put his name on my car. I just got my tax refund and I spent damn near all of it yesterday.

Unrelated to this^
Sold some Subaru parts I had laying around from a 9s STi that I just did a full build on and bought some 1/2" head studs and ls9 head gaskets. Gona run with the stock 317s for the time being or have a coworker work them a little bit for a favor and throw a ljms cam in it when I get the money. I'm overly excited to see this thing coming together.
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So you recieved a few bucks off for spending $4k.
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Nice build
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Originally Posted by DHR Darren
So you recieved a few bucks off for spending $4k.
Right.. Not much of a "Sponsorship." You can bet your *** that if i was going to put someones business name anywhere on my car it would cost more than a slight discount in price.
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Originally Posted by DHR Darren
Holley 160s are $449.
Calculate all your costs and really see how much a stock ecu costs to run.
Cheap is good but not when it results in cheap parts or having to do it twice.
Agree! By the time I purchased hi-imp injectors and HPtuners pro I was looking at well over $2k and I'd still have to change 3x as many tables to accomplish what I want and be bound by numerous restrictions.

I rid myself of the stock ECM and lots of wiring, gained a ton of features and have Holley EFI running for a good bit less with those injectors. Fired right up and runs great, and its super easy to adjust!
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Subd for a cool budget build
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Racetronix has a E85 capable 160lb injector for around $500. If im not mistaken they have the option for low and high impedance. i run the low's on my car and have zero complaints.
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love the budget stuff. I have some budget 4.8 builds in the works and will build the engines and then find a home (another car) for them.

like to hear more about the dominator holley ecm. I'm thinking of swapping to one since it has the built in tranny controller I need for the 480LE and the 4L65E trannies I'm using.

the old buick guys did quite a bit with the tuning of the factory ecm, but not having a wide band to help seems daft.

the on the fly corrections and helping to zero in on the tune seems worth the price of admission.
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You won't find a 120+# High Z injector for under about 700$, and thats pushing it.

Plan on 1000+$ for 150+#.

Unless they are junk off brand.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
You won't find a 120+# High Z injector for under about 700$, and thats pushing it.

Plan on 1000+$ for 150+#.

Unless they are junk off brand.
Actually the new Bosch 210# CNG injectors are HI-Z. They are about $80 each…. Popular with the import guys, very linear at low pulse width compared to the 160lb CNG injectors too. A set came on a 5.3 car I bought. I ended up selling them, but they idled on e85 fine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOSCH-Gas-Petrol-Methanol-210lb-2200cc-High-Impedance-Fuel-Injector-0280158821-/171762029311?hash=item27fdd092ff&vxp=mtr
Old 05-05-2015 | 11:23 AM
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I'm pretty happy with how its coming together.
I bought a
zr1 3 bar map sensor, $30
GM Pigtail, $8
Mac ECBS, $22 with fittings and connector
GM IAT, the good one for boost, $24 with the pigtail and a vibrant 3/8 npt bung

My 1/2" studs came yesterday. My Injectors and MS3-Pro came on saturday. My torque converter and other goodies come today. What's left is the rest of the fuel system, some body work, some engine internals, cold piping, wheels and tires, and lots more man hours on my end.




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Old 05-07-2015 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86


Fuel pumps will be an issue at those levels as well. There are no reasonable priced single pumps capable of 1000whp on e85 I’m aware of.

Cheapest route would be 4 255HP ($96ea with An6 fittings) inline pumps (GSL392). 2 pumps plumbed in parallel per injector rail. Each rail having it’s own Fuel pressure regulator. -8 feed to both rails, -6 returns.


Good luck!
we run the magnafuel 625 and made over 1000 rwhp on e85 and single pump , so yes theres a single pump out there
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Originally Posted by ScreamingL
we run the magnafuel 625 and made over 1000 rwhp on e85 and single pump , so yes theres a single pump out there
Depends on the setup. I've known several sub 1000whp guys that have had issues with a 4303's under 1000whp on e85.

I get some like the idea of one pump. Looking strictly at flow/pressure per $ spent you really can't beat the 255's. They cost less than a 625/750 pumps and flow more. if your on a "budget" 3 of them would flow more than a Magnafuel 625.


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