Choosing an electronic boost controller? Here is a good run-down...
Reading through the instructions for the GFB, I can see no way it would offer boost by gear. It's just a simple straightforward controller like the EBoost street.
Although they do state you can "kind of" create a boost by gear. But in reality you need to manually reset it, then it can only increase boost stages based on a manual switch input.
So much like Eboost2's claims and Leash etc, it's barely passable as a boost by gear and will only apply from standing start straight line as the system never actually has a clue what gear you are in.
Although with an array of switches at least the EBoost2 can get closer.
Although they do state you can "kind of" create a boost by gear. But in reality you need to manually reset it, then it can only increase boost stages based on a manual switch input.
So much like Eboost2's claims and Leash etc, it's barely passable as a boost by gear and will only apply from standing start straight line as the system never actually has a clue what gear you are in.
Although with an array of switches at least the EBoost2 can get closer.
It uses two external switches
It's not a true boost by gear, it just ramps it up from a standstill.
Agp is pretty popular with the 5th gen crowd and it's the only simple controller they sell.
After using one in a friends cars and using the eboost I won't use another "cheap" electronic controller.
It has a bunch of nice little features the eboost doesn't have, it's very simple, and a few friends have had them for a few years without issue.
It uses the same solenoid just about everyone uses, just has a little better interface imo
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At least they're up front and say it's kind of boost by gear, as opposed to calling it boost by gear like other systems do which is blatant lies.
it looks like a decent budget controller though aside from that
The external triggers can be set up to do a bunch of differnt ****, add x amount of boost per button, cycle through presets, hold wastegate pressure then ramp to whatever preset the controller is on.
It's defintely not a true boost by gear, but I wouldn't say it's useless for anything other than straight line short distance.
Its nothing special, especially compared to something like an ams or leash, but I think it's quite a bit better than the other controllers in its price range
It's defintely not a true boost by gear, but I wouldn't say it's useless for anything other than straight line short distance.
Its nothing special, especially compared to something like an ams or leash, but I think it's quite a bit better than the other controllers in its price range
I haven't had any problems with my eboost street.
I also use it to turn on my second fuel pump in boost, which is a nice feature.
A boost controller is only as good as your wastegate and wastegate location however.
I also use it to turn on my second fuel pump in boost, which is a nice feature.
A boost controller is only as good as your wastegate and wastegate location however.
I have the boost leash currently and have had the aem boost controller.
Aem is super easy and has a regular size round gauge which make mountin easy.
I stepped up to the boost leash and a compressed air tank/pump setup. I now run like a 2lb spring in my wastegate and a large range of control. The boost least is easy and nice to work with. Randy said one day it may be able to save multiple configurations which would be nice. Its 5 stage time based control.
I to would like the boost by speed but not for $1500.
Aem is super easy and has a regular size round gauge which make mountin easy.
I stepped up to the boost leash and a compressed air tank/pump setup. I now run like a 2lb spring in my wastegate and a large range of control. The boost least is easy and nice to work with. Randy said one day it may be able to save multiple configurations which would be nice. Its 5 stage time based control.
I to would like the boost by speed but not for $1500.
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From: Norn Iron
I have the boost leash currently and have had the aem boost controller.
Aem is super easy and has a regular size round gauge which make mountin easy.
I stepped up to the boost leash and a compressed air tank/pump setup. I now run like a 2lb spring in my wastegate and a large range of control. The boost least is easy and nice to work with. Randy said one day it may be able to save multiple configurations which would be nice. Its 5 stage time based control.
I to would like the boost by speed but not for $1500.
Aem is super easy and has a regular size round gauge which make mountin easy.
I stepped up to the boost leash and a compressed air tank/pump setup. I now run like a 2lb spring in my wastegate and a large range of control. The boost least is easy and nice to work with. Randy said one day it may be able to save multiple configurations which would be nice. Its 5 stage time based control.
I to would like the boost by speed but not for $1500.
You could probably buy a cheap megasquirt to do boost by speed and just use it for boost control on its own and still be less than $1500
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I picked up the hyperkontrol for my car. Car is not done so I can't give you reviews on the function of it but what I can say his Joe is really helpful. He has answered all my questions promptly this far. The unit itself and harness is a thing of beauty.
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Also keep a look out for used units. I picked mine up for 800. Had it shipped directly to hyperkontrol for updates and to look it over. People are always parting out race cars so keep a look out.
Great info as usual guys 
I tried to get the Holley boost control working and I couldnt figure it out...totally my fault as I dont want to spend alot of energy on it although I should.
back to using my Turbosmart dual stage unit and it works nice. I could use the Holley to trigger the 2nd stage at a certain mph. But like Stevie said, you could be giving up some acceleration if you had traction this way (boost vs speed).
I tried to get the Holley boost control working and I couldnt figure it out...totally my fault as I dont want to spend alot of energy on it although I should.
back to using my Turbosmart dual stage unit and it works nice. I could use the Holley to trigger the 2nd stage at a certain mph. But like Stevie said, you could be giving up some acceleration if you had traction this way (boost vs speed).
Actually the AMS 2000 is the best you can get followed in a tie by the AMS1000 and Hyperkontrol.
I have a little extra freetime, so I thought I would share some research I have done for anyone else looking into their options for a good boost controller to fit their personal needs.
The very best you can buy is the hyperkontrol boost controller http://www.hyperaktiveps.com/mobile/...agement-system
Yep, its $1500, and likely the most expensive boost controller out there. skinnies will argue its well worth the money. And honestly for a true boost by MPH adjustable to every single MPH, why would he be wrong? Setting up your boost per MPH is the single best way IMO to setup boost. It literally will give you the highest attainable boost level with full traction, which means the fastest possible setup in the end.
Next step down is the AMS1000. http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?opt...d=51&Itemid=60
It falls #2 price wise at just under $1,000. You can boost by time, or by gear. Or you can link it up to a VSS based voltage unit LPE sells and get another boost by MPH unit (I haven't found anyone who has done this, but it seems everything is available to do so). Of course by the time you buy the AMS100 and the LPE unit, you might as well just buy the all in one hyperkontrol unit for $1500. The AMS1000 has many features and is a solid unit along with being user friendly.
Third best option seems to be the Plex Pro Boost controller http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/p...ontroller.html
It runs $890, plugs right into your OBDII port with an adapter ($75 extra), and comes with a plethera of awesome options. It also offers boost by speed, wideband O2 reading, timed boost control and a crap load of display info and seems very user friendly. The only reason I am rating this at third is simply because I have yet to hear of anyone on here who has actually used one, so reputation and experience using one on a boosted GM car is limited.
Next in line is TurboSmarts eBoost2. http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-2
It comes in at a much more manageable $540. (I have a new one I am selling for $460 shipped if anyone is interested). The eBoost2 boost controller is not only a very well built billet unit (you can tell the unit is high quality made just from looking at it), but it offers a lot of features offered by the higher dollar units out there and some extras like being able to setup your meth injection control from it. It has 6 different boost levels, and if you can install the micro switches in your gear box, it can be used for boost by gear also. It also has other fancy options like over boost shutdown and sensitivity of your gate pressure, and even a function to fix boost dropoff. This is really the best controller for the money. The bad news is, without the micro switches it is not a true boost by gear unit, and some of the fancier controlled options does not make it as user friendly as some of the other models.
Next up is the Boost Leash boost controller from Leash electronics. http://www.leashelectronics.com/Boos...rollers_c3.htm
The Boost Leash boost controller runs about $550. It can use both manifold pressure or CO2 (which is nice to have the choice). The big thing I really like about this controller is that you can fully adjust the boost for what gear you are in. It uses timing based upon having the clutch stepped in for more than 1 second will start you in gear #1. Its a cheap way to control boost levels by gear, and the controller is extremely user friendly. The bad part is that the screen is very bright, so it may get annoying during night driving.
Next, the AMS 500. http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?opt...d=62&Itemid=65
Unlike the AMS 1000, the AMS 500 is only a 2 stage controller with an adjustable ramp rate. For $400 it may be all some people need/want in a controller.
The AEM Tru boost controller. http://www.aemelectronics.com/?q=pro...ype-controller
Much more basic than the others, using a lot more plastic than others, but still easy to read boost gauge and controlled functions and uses up to two different settings along with the basic ability to recall peak boost. At $336 it may be all some people desire in a boost controller and still fall in a cheap budget.
There are other controllers out there like the APEXI AVC-R and the MSD boost controller, but I didn't research enough positive things to recommend them or others.
This is a basic list with mostly basic details. I could have added a lot more of the tech data, but I didn't want to make this post too long to scare anyone away who may actually need the research later for them. Hopefully this helps those looking at their options.
Feel free to chime in with any additional info or if you feel I got something incorrect.
The very best you can buy is the hyperkontrol boost controller http://www.hyperaktiveps.com/mobile/...agement-system
Yep, its $1500, and likely the most expensive boost controller out there. skinnies will argue its well worth the money. And honestly for a true boost by MPH adjustable to every single MPH, why would he be wrong? Setting up your boost per MPH is the single best way IMO to setup boost. It literally will give you the highest attainable boost level with full traction, which means the fastest possible setup in the end.
Next step down is the AMS1000. http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?opt...d=51&Itemid=60
It falls #2 price wise at just under $1,000. You can boost by time, or by gear. Or you can link it up to a VSS based voltage unit LPE sells and get another boost by MPH unit (I haven't found anyone who has done this, but it seems everything is available to do so). Of course by the time you buy the AMS100 and the LPE unit, you might as well just buy the all in one hyperkontrol unit for $1500. The AMS1000 has many features and is a solid unit along with being user friendly.
Third best option seems to be the Plex Pro Boost controller http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/p...ontroller.html
It runs $890, plugs right into your OBDII port with an adapter ($75 extra), and comes with a plethera of awesome options. It also offers boost by speed, wideband O2 reading, timed boost control and a crap load of display info and seems very user friendly. The only reason I am rating this at third is simply because I have yet to hear of anyone on here who has actually used one, so reputation and experience using one on a boosted GM car is limited.
Next in line is TurboSmarts eBoost2. http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-2
It comes in at a much more manageable $540. (I have a new one I am selling for $460 shipped if anyone is interested). The eBoost2 boost controller is not only a very well built billet unit (you can tell the unit is high quality made just from looking at it), but it offers a lot of features offered by the higher dollar units out there and some extras like being able to setup your meth injection control from it. It has 6 different boost levels, and if you can install the micro switches in your gear box, it can be used for boost by gear also. It also has other fancy options like over boost shutdown and sensitivity of your gate pressure, and even a function to fix boost dropoff. This is really the best controller for the money. The bad news is, without the micro switches it is not a true boost by gear unit, and some of the fancier controlled options does not make it as user friendly as some of the other models.
Next up is the Boost Leash boost controller from Leash electronics. http://www.leashelectronics.com/Boos...rollers_c3.htm
The Boost Leash boost controller runs about $550. It can use both manifold pressure or CO2 (which is nice to have the choice). The big thing I really like about this controller is that you can fully adjust the boost for what gear you are in. It uses timing based upon having the clutch stepped in for more than 1 second will start you in gear #1. Its a cheap way to control boost levels by gear, and the controller is extremely user friendly. The bad part is that the screen is very bright, so it may get annoying during night driving.
Next, the AMS 500. http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?opt...d=62&Itemid=65
Unlike the AMS 1000, the AMS 500 is only a 2 stage controller with an adjustable ramp rate. For $400 it may be all some people need/want in a controller.
The AEM Tru boost controller. http://www.aemelectronics.com/?q=pro...ype-controller
Much more basic than the others, using a lot more plastic than others, but still easy to read boost gauge and controlled functions and uses up to two different settings along with the basic ability to recall peak boost. At $336 it may be all some people desire in a boost controller and still fall in a cheap budget.
There are other controllers out there like the APEXI AVC-R and the MSD boost controller, but I didn't research enough positive things to recommend them or others.
This is a basic list with mostly basic details. I could have added a lot more of the tech data, but I didn't want to make this post too long to scare anyone away who may actually need the research later for them. Hopefully this helps those looking at their options.
Feel free to chime in with any additional info or if you feel I got something incorrect.
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Has anyone ever wired up the boost by gear in the Eboost2 to an external switch in the cockpit? Kind of like, have the first gear setting be low boost to get out of the hole and then you hit the switch to go to the next gear which has the higher boost setting.
Same thing mentioned above
It's not a true boost by gear
My controller has another 5v signal wire that says it will be used for future updated features
Don't know if they plan on using the vss or trans computer to try and make it actually reference speed or gear input.
It's not a true boost by gear
My controller has another 5v signal wire that says it will be used for future updated features
Don't know if they plan on using the vss or trans computer to try and make it actually reference speed or gear input.