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Old 05-04-2015, 04:27 PM
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no traction control thats awesome! Did you try it with?
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Justin you using time base or speed base for this? Im Sure speed base on street but do u carry that over to the track?
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Originally Posted by skinnies
Off the shelf, I do zero prepping to them.

yes they are mud and snow rated tires, 440 tread rating so not super soft either.
Very impressive. Back in the day, there was a hard tire class that guys would run pep boy specials in after soaking them in diesel fuel for a couple days and making them as sticky as fly paper. You'd see guys pulling the front wheels with those but they'd only last about 10-12 runs. Doing it on unprepped MS tires really shows what the driver and chassis can do.
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Its all that "junk in the trunk" !
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Its all that "junk in the trunk" !
Two 15 gallon fuel cells, a2w intercooler with 10 gallon a2w tank, and 2 gallon coolant overflow tank, plus battery makes it full back there!

Originally Posted by Guard dog
Very impressive. Back in the day, there was a hard tire class that guys would run pep boy specials in after soaking them in diesel fuel for a couple days and making them as sticky as fly paper. You'd see guys pulling the front wheels with those but they'd only last about 10-12 runs. Doing it on unprepped MS tires really shows what the driver and chassis can do.
I have never put anything on them as when racing heads up I would think it would make it inconsistent.

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Justin you using time base or speed base for this? Im Sure speed base on street but do u carry that over to the track?
speed base

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no traction control thats awesome! Did you try it with?
No, people have referred to my front wheel speed based boost control as traction control before, but it isn't. It just doesn't add boost if your mph isn't increasing(in other words if it spins the back tires, it doesnt keep increasing boost at the same rate). This is NOT traction control.
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OHHH sorry about that. I read a thread and somebody said you used it for your traction control and I always thought "why would he do that, what if he lifted the front wheels" . Thanks for the clarification !
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wow, thats great!
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Originally Posted by 1320king
OHHH sorry about that. I read a thread and somebody said you used it for your traction control and I always thought "why would he do that, what if he lifted the front wheels" . Thanks for the clarification !
Traction control is a reaction to loss of traction.

Intelligent use of pre-defined boost control is a proactive approach so traction isnt lost in the first place.

And using undriven wheel speed, if it pulls a wheelie no big deal, wheel speed drops and boost would drop too, which in turn should prevent any further increase in the wheelie
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what block, crank/rods brand/model are you running?

did any of your old parts in the bottom end show signs of excessive wear?
Are you reusing any of the old parts from your old motor in the bottom end?
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neat but... **** that. one of those situations where you can but... you probably shouldnt.
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
neat but... **** that. one of those situations where you can but... you probably shouldnt.
Why?

Originally Posted by gnx7
what block, crank/rods brand/model are you running?

did any of your old parts in the bottom end show signs of excessive wear?
Are you reusing any of the old parts from your old motor in the bottom end?
callies crank/rods, diamond pistons, block is now half filled(cracked cylinder wall in another block a few weeks ago). The parts from my old motor I ran for 2 years looked great, just ended up finding small crack in the crank so I picked up the new stronger parts so can push it farther this year.
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Originally Posted by skinnies
Why?

callies crank/rods, diamond pistons, block is now half filled(cracked cylinder wall in another block a few weeks ago). The parts from my old motor I ran for 2 years looked great, just ended up finding small crack in the crank so I picked up the new stronger parts so can push it farther this year.
Dragonslayer cracked? Or compstar cracked and now you have a slayer.
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Originally Posted by asubennett
Dragonslayer cracked? Or compstar cracked and now you have a slayer.
dragonslayer, my old eagle crank had a very small crack in it, we didn't know it until pulled it out to freshen it up over the winter and was inspecting it.
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Nice job....Do you mind sharing your chassis set-up?
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Originally Posted by skinnies
Why?
besides not being designed for that sort of shock, speed, and heat cycling?

A more extreme example is the 1 caar or so per year at the Texas Mile that crashes because of a blown tire. Why? Because the tires used arent designed or built to take that sort of abuse.

Might as well run without a cage as well.. =/
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in for chassis setup to make it work on these tires lol.....weight bias, shock settings, instant center etc etc
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Originally Posted by skinnies
dragonslayer, my old eagle crank had a very small crack in it, we didn't know it until pulled it out to freshen it up over the winter and was inspecting it.
Wow that's hard to do. You need some billet, pinned mains. Lots of flex.....
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He said bottom looked fine. I'm sure it wasn't moving if the bearings where fine. Cracks can happen on any forging, just more likely on one of less quality
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Anybody cracked a dragonslayer yet? Just curious
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Nice job....Do you mind sharing your chassis set-up?
UPR arb, lca, baseline outlaw uppers, menscer shocks, hooken chassis front control arms and kmember, menscer shocks.

Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
besides not being designed for that sort of shock, speed, and heat cycling?

A more extreme example is the 1 caar or so per year at the Texas Mile that crashes because of a blown tire. Why? Because the tires used arent designed or built to take that sort of abuse.

Might as well run without a cage as well.. =/
For several seconds I'm over the speed rating I'm not concerned with it honestly. If for any reason I was concerned with my safety I would not be doing it.

Originally Posted by asubennett
Wow that's hard to do. You need some billet, pinned mains. Lots of flex.....
I don't think that was an issue at all, it was a 12yr old eagle crank that had been thru a lot of abuse before I got it so I wasn't concerned when it had the cracks in it.

Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
He said bottom looked fine. I'm sure it wasn't moving if the bearings where fine. Cracks can happen on any forging, just more likely on one of less quality
I think just all the stress of 12 yrs of racing and I know it had a rough life from the previous owner Maxx melting the motor down twice.


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