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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 12:09 PM
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For those with a A2W setup, how are you guys keeping the water tank cold? I currently have a 5 gallon water tank and I am putting about 20 lbs of ice in it. The problem is that most of the ice is melting sitting in the staging lanes.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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For those with a A2W setup, how are you guys keeping the water tank cold? I currently have a 5 gallon water tank and I am putting about 20 lbs of ice in it. The problem is that most of the ice is melting sitting in the staging lanes.
It shouldn't matter if it melts or not. Most will melt all the ice with one pass anyway.

Big questions is what do your IAT's look like? If you are not satisfied with them then look to use a bigger heat exchanger with a fan perhaps. Your core may not be satisfactory for your set up either.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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You can run something like a "Killer Chiller" setup where it uses your AC to cool the water in the system.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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Definitely do not expect the ice to remain after a single pass. The A2W core is rate for 2500HP and I am making about 980 rwhp. The loop has no heat exchanger. Car also has no AC system.
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If u are melting it in staging you are doing something wrong. And you gain a fair amount btu utilizing the phase change and not wasting it before the pass
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1290
Definitely do not expect the ice to remain after a single pass. The A2W core is rate for 2500HP and I am making about 980 rwhp. The loop has no heat exchanger. Car also has no AC system.
Heat exchanger will help tremendously. Same question though, what are your IAT's during the pass? You may be a chasing a problem that doesn't matter at all for the safety of your tune at "only" 980whp.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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Would it be unsafe to turn off the circulation pump while in staging to let the ice just sit in there, then turn it on right before running?
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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I turn my on right before I enter the waterbox, seems to work well.
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I'd hope he isn't circulating while sitting in staging lol

I turn on when I enter the box aswell
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A HE will rape the popular pumps like the rules
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Use a cooler instead of an alum tank. Doesn't sweat all over the place either.


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You guys think the A2W is that beneficial when considering all the work/cost it would take to swap from an A2A?
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Use a cooler instead of an alum tank. Doesn't sweat all over the place either.

That's a thing of beauty right there.. I have an old-school Sunkist cylindrical cooler that might have just found a second life!
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Use a cooler instead of an alum tank. Doesn't sweat all over the place either.



Force you are the KING of cost effective solutions.. In case you didn't know.
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
I'd hope he isn't circulating while sitting in staging lol

I turn on when I enter the box aswell
The car is off until I can roll down to about about second inline to go run. Start the car and when I am next in line I start the circulating pump.

Would adding a heat exchanger and fan on the outlet of the A2W core really help that much?
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The fact that the ice melts is actually a good thing...it means your setup is effective in drawing in heat. The real question is still what do your IATs look like? If they are good then you dont need to worry about anything.
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For what you are doing a HE is only detrimental. Plus increased head pressure on the pump kills the flow. I have had a flow meter on my system and the rule pumps hate any head pressure at all




I've had both. The a2a still better on the street imo, though on the track using ice there is no compassion


To op do u drain almost all your water from the tank and then fill it with ice? I do that and I could sit in staging a half hr and still have ice
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
For what you are doing a HE is only detrimental. Plus increased head pressure on the pump kills the flow. I have had a flow meter on my system and the rule pumps hate any head pressure at all




I've had both. The a2a still better on the street imo, though on the track using ice there is no compassion


To op do u drain almost all your water from the tank and then fill it with ice? I do that and I could sit in staging a half hr and still have ice
I've had A2A (4" thick ETS) and now A2W with 5 Gallon Tank. My IAT's with A2A would climb to 165 range and hold. Would take a while to cool back down as well. Repeated pulls would get it up around 190.

A2W with only water (no ice)......

Cruising with pump off. I reach 140. Turn pump on within 30 seconds temps drop to 105. While pump is running and hard pull on street it will max out at 140. Pull after pull it never goes beyond 140.

A2W superior on street to me for IAT's but if your running E85 the difference between 140 and 185 is not a huge deal in regards to your tune. On pump gas A2W is absolutely worth the extra 45 degree improvement in my view.
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You need a real core like a Garrett for an a2a and you will see what works is.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
You need a real core like a Garrett for an a2a and you will see what works is.

How do you know my ETS intercooler wasn't a Garrett core?

I've had both - call BS on the difference being noticeable. Post your stats.
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