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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 07:53 PM
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I'm under the impression that the regulator only needs to see boost, and not vacuum. Would I be right to assume that?

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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 07:55 PM
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Needs to see both.
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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I would only have it see boost unless the injectors are HUGE
But I have never ran that regulator
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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They're 120lb injectors. The Holley drives them impeccably well.
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by T.Fiddler
I would only have it see boost unless the injectors are HUGE
But I have never ran that regulator
Lol.

The whole point of the referenced regulator is to maintain set fuel pressure over any manifold pressure.

It should see vac/boost and whatever in-between
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Lol.

The whole point of the referenced regulator is to maintain set fuel pressure over any manifold pressure.

It should see vac/boost and whatever in-between
You may be right but everyone tunes different.
Does a stock LS vacuum reference the fuel pressure?
I just don't like FP messing with my tune when there is no need to

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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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Lol yeah a stock is unrefrenced across the board. Not oh let's ref it in boost and not in vac. Glad u wouldn't be tuning my car.
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Old Nov 10, 2015 | 12:39 AM
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I can't tell you how many blown/turbo cars I've helped tune and the first thing I see is the line on the regulator is missing. I ask about it and they look at me like I'm the crazy one. I had one guy tell me that he uses the BAP instead of a vac/boost reference cause it's better. I walked away from that one.
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I am all for learning something here. Can someone explain why the OEM does not reference fuel pressure in non boosted applications?
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Less plumbing

They get to deadhead at the rail ... Less heat to the fuel brought back to tank, means less vapor to control emissions wise
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Less plumbing

They get to deadhead at the rail ... Less heat to the fuel brought back to tank, means less vapor to control emissions wise
Well I guess since normal idle / cruise to WOT (no boost) Is only going to change FP around 6 lbs. It is probably not a big deal either way.
My car is 5 bar (71 psi) FP with no reference.

Thanks for the input

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In some cases they do. 97-98 Corvettes for instance. Some LS trucks do as well.
Not sure why GM changed in that respect. Perhaps cost?

Not sure about the GM supercharged stuff. But in the case of the Hellcat for instance, Dodge uses a PWM fuel pump.

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I started with my fpr referenced to both vacuum and boost(to the manifold pressure), but ended up only referencing to boost.
with the vacuum connected, the low rpm fueling was all over the place, I assume the lopey cam I run caused fluctuations in fuel flow that made it hard to tune idle and off idle. Once I removed the vacuum reference, and tuned accordingly, all was good.

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Originally Posted by 3pedals
I started with my fpr referenced to both vacuum and boost(to the manifold pressure), but ended up only referencing to boost.
with the vacuum connected, the low rpm fueling was all over the place, I assume the lopey cam I run caused fluctuations in fuel flow that made it hard to tune idle and off idle. Once I removed the vacuum reference, and tuned accordingly, all was good.

WHEW! at least I am not the only one !
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 06:34 AM
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I only run a boost line-with vac. also it pulled down the FP from 43 to around 36, kind of ads to the tuning
Nascar used to use the vac to lean out the engines on caution laps to get a clean restart, but I just never saw any advantage otherwise-not sure if they use it on FI now
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