Anyone use this sheet metal intake?
If was the OP I would review the intake shootout and from that determine if the inake is viable for where the engine will run. It might be the only intake that is gaining power faster than losing torque thd last thousand rpm... Everything would need to be geared for that intakes powerband. Keep in mind the cam used probably didnt do the short runner intakes any justice especially that one. I dont think the torque loss was that5a bad compared to the ls1 and that's an area the converter should blow through anyway. For a race piece I think it could be made to work, but needs thought out. Stock bottom may not be the proper application.
You're 100% right. I've got one off my old car I'll be using.
If was the OP I would review the intake shootout and from that determine if the inake is viable for where the engine will run. It might be the only intake that is gaining power faster than losing torque thd last thousand rpm... Everything would need to be geared for that intakes powerband. Keep in mind the cam used probably didnt do the short runner intakes any justice especially that one. I dont think the torque loss was that5a bad compared to the ls1 and that's an area the converter should blow through anyway. For a race piece I think it could be made to work, but needs thought out. Stock bottom may not be the proper application.
If you have TBSS/NBSS I would stick with it, its what I would use if I ever swap an an LS into the C3. If I was shopping probably the Pro Flo, the Symbol piece is intended for a specific purpose, one needs to figure if that purpose corresponds to their build/goals. I surely wouldnt buy the Symbol piece and reduce down to a 78mm TB. If you could add another 700 rpm that intake would only pull away from a factory intake, but now your in the 8000 rpm range, how reliable/budget is that? When you have deficiencies like the symbol has you need to do some math, can you run the extra gear for the low end loss but enogh rpm to keep the big end?
I do not believe in "budget" builds that are competition oriented.
When it comes to competition, think like Nascar with a level playing field. Everyone is supposed to play by the rules.
but what you describe is not nascar. There are no rules. The cheapest "budget" power adder is nitrous, just turn up the juice until you win or need a next engine. All this talk of forced induction and build bottom ends is only trying to increase the life expectancy of whatever is under the hood- completely the opposite of a competition where the only goal is winning, at all costs, as you cross the finish line first who cares if the pistons rip free and the block sprays all over the road showering everyone with milky oil.
When it comes to competition, think like Nascar with a level playing field. Everyone is supposed to play by the rules.
but what you describe is not nascar. There are no rules. The cheapest "budget" power adder is nitrous, just turn up the juice until you win or need a next engine. All this talk of forced induction and build bottom ends is only trying to increase the life expectancy of whatever is under the hood- completely the opposite of a competition where the only goal is winning, at all costs, as you cross the finish line first who cares if the pistons rip free and the block sprays all over the road showering everyone with milky oil.
If you look at the photos from Alibaba and Holleys website, the TB flange is the exact same, same machine program, the vacuum manifold on the bottom is the exact same layout, the injector bungs are the exact same aswell, not to mention the intake runners are formed using the same machine that all of the china intakes come from.
Holley changed the top of the intake and called it their own. If you put a large enough order in with China, they put your logo on it. Been there, done that.
You got an old one. Want to know how I know? Because Ive talked and ordered directly from the factory in China that makes them. They emailed me stating all material thickness has been increased to 1/8" due to feedback. Before it was gauge plate.
If you look at the photos from Alibaba and Holleys website, the TB flange is the exact same, same machine program, the vacuum manifold on the bottom is the exact same layout, the injector bungs are the exact same aswell, not to mention the intake runners are formed using the same machine that all of the china intakes come from.
Holley changed the top of the intake and called it their own. If you put a large enough order in with China, they put your logo on it. Been there, done that.
If you look at the photos from Alibaba and Holleys website, the TB flange is the exact same, same machine program, the vacuum manifold on the bottom is the exact same layout, the injector bungs are the exact same aswell, not to mention the intake runners are formed using the same machine that all of the china intakes come from.
Holley changed the top of the intake and called it their own. If you put a large enough order in with China, they put your logo on it. Been there, done that.
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Good thing mine turns to 8500
You got an old one. Want to know how I know? Because Ive talked and ordered directly from the factory in China that makes them. They emailed me stating all material thickness has been increased to 1/8" due to feedback. Before it was gauge plate.
If you look at the photos from Alibaba and Holleys website, the TB flange is the exact same, same machine program, the vacuum manifold on the bottom is the exact same layout, the injector bungs are the exact same aswell, not to mention the intake runners are formed using the same machine that all of the china intakes come from.
Holley changed the top of the intake and called it their own. If you put a large enough order in with China, they put your logo on it. Been there, done that.
If you look at the photos from Alibaba and Holleys website, the TB flange is the exact same, same machine program, the vacuum manifold on the bottom is the exact same layout, the injector bungs are the exact same aswell, not to mention the intake runners are formed using the same machine that all of the china intakes come from.
Holley changed the top of the intake and called it their own. If you put a large enough order in with China, they put your logo on it. Been there, done that.
Sorry to take the thread off topic but are you or has anyone actually ordered from Alibaba? I thought they couldn't sell in the US and were trying to bring the site over here but they haven't figured out how to be legal in the US without kicking off all of the knockoff products which are their bread and butter? Forbes had an article about the CEO talking about them trying to get into the US market.